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#37092 - 10/14/06 03:17 AM Re: Will St. Nicholas Monastery in Mukachevo ever be returned to Ruthenian Catholics?
griego catolico Online   content
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Here are photos of Metropolitan Nicholas' visit to the new church at St. Nicholas Monastery in Mukachevo, which was built for the increasing number of pilgrims.

There are at present over 90 nuns living at the monastery.

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#37093 - 10/14/06 06:59 AM Re: Will St. Nicholas Monastery in Mukachevo ever be returned to Ruthenian Catholics?
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Thank you for posting these photos. I particularly love the lighter colors in the many icons and frescoes of the new church. They seem particularly appropriate for a women's monastery, and seem to project a very light and ethereal feeling to the whole church.

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#37094 - 10/14/06 08:34 PM Re: Will St. Nicholas Monastery in Mukachevo ever be returned to Ruthenian Catholics?
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Maybe the Muscovites should take example in the Holy Fathers returning some of the relics and icons?
Stephanos

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#37095 - 10/16/06 10:26 PM Re: Will St. Nicholas Monastery in Mukachevo ever be returned to Ruthenian Catholics?
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Thank you so much for these photos/or the link for these photos. I'm overwhelmed.
Perhaps, does anyone know: Does this monastery of nuns have a website? Preferably in English, but Russian would be okay?
Thank you in advance for any assistance.

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#37096 - 10/17/06 04:21 AM Re: Will St. Nicholas Monastery in Mukachevo ever be returned to Ruthenian Catholics?
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Sorry, there is no web site for the Monastery with pictures. All that is on the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (MP) website is the address and the name of the Huegumena in Ukrainian.
The UOC has nine monasteries in the eparchy: 6 women’s monasteries and three male monasteries.

http://archiv.orthodox.org.ua/page-124.html

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#37097 - 10/17/06 01:11 PM Re: Will St. Nicholas Monastery in Mukachevo ever be returned to Ruthenian Catholics?
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This website has more photos of the St. Nicholas Monastery:

http://www.orthodoxmonastery.com/News-Events-Photos.htm

Dave

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#37098 - 10/17/06 01:23 PM Re: Will St. Nicholas Monastery in Mukachevo ever be returned to Ruthenian Catholics?
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Chtec,

Glad to see these Orthodox Rusyns still use their traditional Otpust crosses. I'm trying to see If any of my cousins are in the crowd. I'll have to take a closer look.
... "Christijane, proslavl'ajme, Cistuju D'ivu"...

Ungcsertezs

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#37099 - 10/17/06 02:28 PM Re: Will St. Nicholas Monastery in Mukachevo ever be returned to Ruthenian Catholics?
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Originally posted by Ung-Certez:
Chtec,

Glad to see these Orthodox Rusyns still use their traditional Otpust crosses. I'm trying to see If any of my cousins are in the crowd. I'll have to take a closer look.
... "Christijane, proslavl'ajme, Cistuju D'ivu"...

Ungcsertezs
Ung,

I agree, although aside from the crosses, banners and faces in the crowd, everything else looks pretty "Great Russian" to me. I wonder if they use any prostopinije there these days, especially during the Dormition feastday. That would be a great question for your cousins! smile

I'd be pretty hard to stop the people from singing hymns, though! "Slava, Tvoja, slava, Marije preslavna..."

Chtec

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#37100 - 10/17/06 02:50 PM Re: Will St. Nicholas Monastery in Mukachevo ever be returned to Ruthenian Catholics?
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In the village parishes, Rusyn Prostopinije is used. I just get a kick out of how some of the "Muscovite" clergy use the Great Russian pronounciation of Church Slavonic. The first Pentecost Monday liturgy I attended in Certez, the people processed three times around the outside of the church, as is the Rusyn custom. At the very end, everyone sang three different Prostopinije versions of "Mnohaja Li'ta" which was a real treat!

Ungcsertezs

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#37101 - 10/17/06 09:09 PM Re: Will St. Nicholas Monastery in Mukachevo ever be returned to Ruthenian Catholics?
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ung-Certez:
In the village parishes, Rusyn Prostopinije is used. I just get a kick out of how some of the "Muscovite" clergy use the Great Russian pronounciation of Church Slavonic. The first Pentecost Monday liturgy I attended in Certez, the people processed three times around the outside of the church, as is the Rusyn custom. At the very end, everyone sang three different Prostopinije versions of "Mnohaja Li'ta" which was a real treat!



Ungcsertezs
LOL! I must admit I do have to agree with you. Why is it that some of the clergy assume that to be proper Slavonic, it must be spoken like a Bulgarian or other south slav? I have watched many Carpatho-Russian born and bred deacons positively struggle to inflect like a Bulgar! "Mirommmm Gwospodu pommmolimsja" ! That is one of the things that I appreciated about Metropolitan Laurus when he was in residence at Jordanville. He would correct both the pronounciation "Bog" as well as "Boh", and soon all were using "Boxh" (difficult to transliterate).
In the photos, I did notice some things of both the south and the north. The mitre of both the bishop and the clergy were of the smaller "ukrainian" style. The Khlobuki of the monastics were of the distinctive taller Carpathian type. The vestments of the priests were Kieven, not the ultra highbacks of the north. I noticed an altar rail, whilst the tetropod seemed to be missing.

Alexandr

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#37102 - 10/17/06 09:26 PM Re: Will St. Nicholas Monastery in Mukachevo ever be returned to Ruthenian Catholics?
Fr Serge Keleher Offline
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As to those Marian hymns, perhaps they are best when sung in Hungarian.

Fr. Serge

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#37103 - 10/18/06 01:44 PM Re: Will St. Nicholas Monastery in Mukachevo ever be returned to Ruthenian Catholics?
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So, does anyone know what sort of music the monasteries in the Mukachevo Diocese of the UOC-MP use? Prostopinije, obikhod, a mix? I could venture a guess, but I'd rather hear from the experts. smile

Dave

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#37104 - 10/18/06 04:44 PM Re: Will St. Nicholas Monastery in Mukachevo ever be returned to Ruthenian Catholics?
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Does the Greek Catholic Eparchy of Mukachevo seek the return of this monastery or has it let it go?

What is it the current relationship between the monastery and Ruthenian Catholics? Does the monastery receive organized pilgrimiges from Byzantine Catholics?

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#37105 - 10/19/06 05:03 AM Re: Will St. Nicholas Monastery in Mukachevo ever be returned to Ruthenian Catholics?
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Where did the Greek Catholics get it from in the first place? I dont suppose it was Orthodox before the union came along.

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#37106 - 10/19/06 05:22 AM Re: Will St. Nicholas Monastery in Mukachevo ever be returned to Ruthenian Catholics?
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Possession is 9/10's of the law, I guess.

Ungcsertezs

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