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#372119 - 11/19/11 05:41 PM
Re: Catholic bishops call for united Easter holiday across churches N
[Re: ajk]
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My breathing is quite steady. If the Catholic Church wants a united Easter no one is stopping it from adopting Orthodox Easter. Debates about the calendar can always continue, but those debates will not bring about a united Easter any time soon. I believe all Christians, not just Catholics, should want a united celebration of Pascha. I also believe that the prescription of Nicaea can and should be followed -- it is a well-informed and meaningful directive, in science and theology one could not produce a better one. And since we have the ability to implement those directives we should do so; and that today, to be faithful to the directives of Nicaea, in deed and fact, we must use the Gregorian calendar/paschalion or the method outlined at Aleppo or equivalent, and not use the Julian calendar/paschalion because it is now a hinderance and a disservice to what Nicaea wanted to achieve. I am sure that the Orthodox would be overjoyed if Catholics began celebrating Easter with them, but arguments about the calendar are not going to accomplish anything any time soon. That said, if we Catholics want a unified Easter celebration it is pretty clear that we have the freedom to adopt the Orthodox practice. Discussions about the calendar can continue even after the Orthodox date for celebrating Easter is adopted by Catholics. 
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#372120 - 11/19/11 05:46 PM
Re: Catholic bishops call for united Easter holiday across churches N
[Re: Tomassus]
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I do not think that St Paul had the calendar in mind when he wrote those words; to use them to justify intransigence borders on arrogance. I think the humbler thing to do is to accept the calendar that is in use today throughout the world just as the Father of Nicaea used the calendar in use in their world to calculate the day of Pascha. By the way, the foolishness of science fashioned the modern means by which you are communicating.
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#372123 - 11/19/11 06:04 PM
Re: Catholic bishops call for united Easter holiday across churches N
[Re: Utroque]
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Registered: 07/23/05
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Loc: The Third Rome
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I do not think that St Paul had the calendar in mind when he wrote those words; to use them to justify intransigence borders on arrogance. I think the humbler thing to do is to accept the calendar that is in use today throughout the world just as the Father of Nicaea used the calendar in use in their world to calculate the day of Pascha. By the way, the foolishness of science fashioned the modern means by which you are communicating. You speak to me of intransigence and arrogance and that in humility I should accept YOUR calendar because Rome wants a common Easter date? Just who the h#$% is the arrogant one here?
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#372125 - 11/19/11 06:14 PM
Re: Catholic bishops call for united Easter holiday across churches N
[Re: Slavipodvizhnik]
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I do not think that St Paul had the calendar in mind when he wrote those words; to use them to justify intransigence borders on arrogance. I think the humbler thing to do is to accept the calendar that is in use today throughout the world just as the Father of Nicaea used the calendar in use in their world to calculate the day of Pascha. By the way, the foolishness of science fashioned the modern means by which you are communicating. You speak to me of intransigence and arrogance and that in humility I should accept YOUR calendar because Rome wants a common Easter date? Just who the h#$% is the arrogant one here? I think that Slavipodvizhnik is the most arrogant of several posters here. Rome has not asked the East to accept an evil, devil-created Roman Catholic Calendar. It has asked the East to consider the possibility of doing exactly what the Church Fathers did at Nicea I. They saw a need for a single date for the celebration of the Resurrection. And they came up with a formula based upon the best scientific calendar of the day (which was the Julian Calendar). There is no evidence that they were declaring the calendar of Julius Caesar to be dogmatic. I'll give myself the last word on this topic. Let's take a break from the Calendar Question. Only the Lord can lead.
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