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#375220 - 02/02/12 10:45 PM Odd event if true: Orthodox enter Lefevrists
Herbigny Offline
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Does anyone know if this is true?
if true, it is weird on so many levels...

found it on: http://honresp-catholicblog.blogspot.com/
dated 31 Jan.

apparently/allegedly the CDF accepted as valid "the repudiation of schism of a former Orthodox priest accomplished by the Superior-General of the Society of Saint Pius X (FSSPX /SSPX), Bp. Bernard Fellay...."
one Archimandrite Athenagoras Bogoridic-Liven, of the Bulgarian Church, who has been made an Monsignor because he is an Archimandrite...

Sounds like he became Roman Catholic rather than entering the Bulgarian Byzantine Catholic Church...
Doesn't this violate Canon Law and the Ecumenical/General Council of Vatican II?

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#375222 - 02/03/12 03:23 AM Re: Odd event if true: Orthodox enter Lefevrists [Re: Herbigny]
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Herb, after all these years, you had to make me spill coffee all over my keyboard? biggrin

ok - new update at Rorate Coeli, which apparently was the source for the blog post to which Herb linked - but who reportedly got their version elsewhere, rather than from a valid source.

Quote:
3. (Update) The content of the third external news item to which we had linked was incorrect in several of its most important details. From the SSPX we have received the following note: "The affirmation according to which the abjuration was received from the hands of Bp. Fellay and approved by Cardinal Levada is incorrect."


here

Guess we can write this strange story off - at least in its original conformation.

Many years,

Neil


Edited by Irish Melkite (02/03/12 07:01 AM)
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#375237 - 02/03/12 11:13 AM Re: Odd event if true: Orthodox enter Lefevrists [Re: Irish Melkite]
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dear Moderator General Neil:

Sorry about the spillage, I owe you a coffee!

thanks for the update and investigation

of course you know this only begs the Question: So WHAT really happened? and what are the facts? (not to mention, in what "important details" was the report incorrect?)

anyone know?

Happy Post-Feast (for the neo-Calendrists)
Blessed Herald to the Fast everyone!

Herb
at the mercy of the internet rumour mill

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#375238 - 02/03/12 12:14 PM Re: Odd event if true: Orthodox enter Lefevrists [Re: Herbigny]
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Here's the denial from Fr. Lombardi:

http://www.la-croix.com/Religion/Urbi-Or...12-02-01-764407

And the restatement of "correct" version by the Polish SSPX:

http://news.fsspx.pl/?p=371

If he is just an Athonite monk who has come into communion with the Roman Catholic Church, that would still be newsworthy even without the SSPX angle (and this part of the story has not been denied). I don't remember the last time that happened.

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#375243 - 02/03/12 05:03 PM Re: Odd event if true: Orthodox enter Lefevrists [Re: Herbigny]
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google translation:

Rome denies having acknowledged the abjuration of an Orthodox monk entered the Society of St. Pius X

While the Polish site of the Priestly Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX) reported the official recognition by Cardinal William Levada, prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the "recantation" of the Archimandrite Athenagoras Bogoridi-Liven, P. Federico Lombardi, director of the Press Room of the Holy See has strongly denied this information to the Cross "baseless and misleading."

"There is no letter signed by Cardinal Levada about Archimandrite Bogoridi-Liven," said Father Lombardi questioned on this topic by Cross.

On the information relayed through the same site that Cardinal Levada also acknowledged to Archimandrite Bogoridi-Liven dignity of prelate of His Holiness, Father Lombardi said that "no sense" and that "this question is in any case beyond the jurisdiction of the Cardinal Prefect."

"There is only one letter signed by the secretary of the Congregation, Archbishop Ladaria, who responds - in general terms - at the request of Archimandrite on how to enter the communion of the Catholic Church, without any reference the Society of Saint Pius X, "says P. Lombardi who said that "the information contained on the site in question are unfounded and misleading."

According to the Polish site of the Priestly Society of Saint Pius X, echoed by several other sphere of traditionalist Bishop Bernard Fellay, superior general of the SSPX would have been Sunday, November 27, 2011 in Abbey Bellaigue (Puy-de- dome), linked to the SSPX, the abjuration of Archimandrite Bogoridi-Liven.

Born in Bulgaria a Russian-Greek family, the monk of 38 years of age had entered a monastery on Mount Athos. Specializing in liturgy, he devoted to the Latin rite a doctorate at the Moscow Theological University and lives since last August at the Abbey of Bellaigue.

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#375249 - 02/04/12 03:07 AM Re: Odd event if true: Orthodox enter Lefevrists [Re: Herbigny]
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Prior to the denial, a commentator at Rorate wondered aloud at the progressive thinking of the Congregation in acknowledging that a bishop who is himself in irregular cmmunion could accept into full communion an archimandrite who is in imperfect communion. Truly, that would have been a profound question on which to ponder. crazy

Many years,

Neil
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