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#376798 - 03/04/12 04:36 PM Prostrations among the Ukrainians
RussianCath Offline
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Dear Forum Members,

Do members of the Ukrainian Greek Catholic & Ukrainian Orthodox Churches do prostrations during the Divine Liturgy, or is this purely a Russian practice? (I am referring to Liturgies outside of Great Lent).

If they do, are they done at the same time as the Russians, or different?
Thank You!

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#376804 - 03/04/12 05:08 PM Re: Prostrations among the Ukrainians [Re: RussianCath]
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Well usually one does not prostrate outside of lent, or are you referring to weekday services?

The rule of thumb is that there are no prostrations ever on Sunday and only on Kneeling Vespers of Pentecost does one kneel (technically Sunday evening, not day).

That is what I was taught and observed and did, and still do.

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#376806 - 03/04/12 05:12 PM Re: Prostrations among the Ukrainians [Re: RussianCath]
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Aren't the exceptions to the rule - the 3rd Sunday of the Great Fast as well as the Feast of the Exaltation of the Cross ?

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#376827 - 03/04/12 08:36 PM Re: Prostrations among the Ukrainians [Re: Our Lady's slave]
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I can't speak in general regarding Ukrainian Orthodox parish practice,when I was the guest of a local Ukrainian Orthodox priest,I observed both priest and congregation kneel after the liturgy to the singing of a hymn.I believe it was "Bozhe Velikyy".The only issue I had was that one shouldn't kneel after recieving Holy Communion at least until Vespers later in the day.
Regarding the Cross,I would say we do prostrations before the Cross always,Sunday or not,EXCEPT,as I stated above, after Holy Communion is recieved.

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#376836 - 03/05/12 01:03 AM Re: Prostrations among the Ukrainians [Re: RussianCath]
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Ruthenians do prostrations during Divine Liturgy on the Feast of the Exaltation of the Cross.

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#376840 - 03/05/12 02:23 AM Re: Prostrations among the Ukrainians [Re: RussianCath]
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In a number of Russian or Russian-derived parishes, a custom of prostrating at the Epiclesis has developed over a number of decades (maybe even centuries?), in imitation of the prostration performed by the celebrants after the invocation of the Holy Spirit. However, it has to be said that this is not in the rubrics for the laity, and is not in keeping with the spirit of honoring Sunday as the Day of Resurrection. Nonetheless, like kneeling in some Greek Catholic parishes, it's almost impossible to suppress--popular piety cares nothing for rubrical niceties.

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#376856 - 03/05/12 05:35 AM Re: Prostrations among the Ukrainians [Re: RussianCath]
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True. I forgot those 2 Sundays for the Exaltation of the Cross during lent and in September.

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#376899 - 03/06/12 12:34 AM Re: Prostrations among the Ukrainians [Re: RussianCath]
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Dear Subdeacon,
You mean the Sunday of the Cross in Lent and the Exaltation of the Cross which may fall on a Sunday(when it does,according to the Russian rubrics)nothing of the Resurrection is chanted during Vespers,Matins, and Liturgy.
Then there is the lesser Feast of the Cross,Aug 1st,which begins the Dormition Fast.Often,in parishes,that is served only if it falls on Sunday.

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