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#380135 - 05/16/12 10:47 PM
Sacraments
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People say tha FSSPX doesn't have valid a Sacrament of Confession. If this is true, then can we say the same thing about the Eastern and Oriental Orthodox Churches?
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#380142 - 05/17/12 01:44 AM
Re: Sacraments
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People say tha FSSPX doesn't have valid a Sacrament of Confession. If this is true, then can we say the same thing about the Eastern and Oriental Orthodox Churches? I haven't done tons of research into the SSPX, but I believe their sacraments are valid but illicit.
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#380154 - 05/17/12 05:22 AM
Re: Sacraments
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Bob provides the answer with a bit more spice than is characteristic. The only error in it is that if the SSPX were the schismatics Bob calls them, Rome would likely call their confessions valid. It is the fact that they lack (by Abp. Lefebvre's own design and intent) anything like bishops with jurisdiction that their confessions lack validity.
Djrakowski, marriage and confession are the exceptions to your observation; marriage for lack of canonical form and confessions for lack of a bishop to grant faculties.
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#380185 - 05/17/12 05:50 PM
Re: Sacraments
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Djrakowski, marriage and confession are the exceptions to your observation; marriage for lack of canonical form and confessions for lack of a bishop to grant faculties. You're right. Thanks for filling in the gap for me!
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#380282 - 05/20/12 12:21 AM
Re: Sacraments
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henrikhank:
They are not on any comparable plane with the schismatics in the Society of St. Pius X. Are you really sure they are schismatic? henrikhank:
The Orthodox Churches are true, Apostolic Churches that have the same Mysteries/Sacraments as the Roman/Latin Church and the Eastern Churches in communion her. Why then do people talk about the great schism?
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