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Carpathian Mountain Outreach 2012 #381638
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The Carpathian Mountain Outreach 2012 is about to get started. Info packs and application forms are ready. According to their website,
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The Carpathian Mountains are home to thousands of unreached Ukrainians, living quite isolated from the modern world. Most major cities in Ukraine have at least some Gospel witness, but for many living in the mountains, Christ is little more than a figurine dangling from a chain. Religious though they are, most have never heard the call to believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins.

Yes, they are looking for young men to spread the Word of God to those heretical Orthodox and Catholics. They hope to convert and save their souls.

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Thank God the local Catholic Priest warned the village of these people:
Recap of Bukovets & Kozakiva

Re: Carpathian Mountain Outreach 2012 [Re: Ray S.] #381651
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Nothing like preaching the gospel using a Hollywood film.....ugghhhh.

The people in this region have been Christian and exsisted longer than both Protestantism and the United States have combined. They (carpo-rusyns) should send us missionaries not the other way around.

Re: Carpathian Mountain Outreach 2012 [Re: Ray S.] #381664
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I, too, hope I'll finally be converted and that my soul will one day be saved. Betcha it ain't gonna happen through the follies of this version of Protestantism.

What a bunch of air-headed, arrogant and ignorant nit-wits. (I mean this with LUV, as you know). I bet their endeavor will go over like a ton of lead bricks.

They're going to "evangelise" people who have undergone martyrdom for Christ? Obviously they don't know Polish from polish...

Oh well: the targets of this "outreach" have survived the Ottoman Turks and Communism. Compared to that, this'll be nothing but a mild thunderstorm.

Who knows? One of the participants might meet a local girl, fall in love, marry her and turn into an iconodule with a hankerin' for prostopinije and incense. Podaj, Hospody!

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Meet Pastor Kevin Hymer who is the pastor of Fairpark Baptist Church in Ft. Worth Texas. Pastor Kevin Hymer thinks the people of the Carpathian mountain area are Godless and he has been commissioned by God to send missionaries to spread the good news of Christ to the Catholic/Orthodox in the area. Pastor Kevin is sponsoring Joshua and Kelsie Steel Both Joshua and Kelsie speak the Ukrainian language and are actively involved in the lives of the Ukrainian people.

The way the missionaries Joshua and Kelsie Steel go about converting the Godless Ukrainians is through a free English class. You can see wonderful picture here. However, last year their printer broke his leg so they are out of lesson one materials. After their lessons they spread the word of God to the people.

I am so glad that after 1,500 years the people of Ukraine will finally hear the word of God.

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Finally the people living in the Carpathians will hear about Jesus Christ. Ridiculous!!!

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No wonder there are tens of thousands of Russian, Ukrainian and other Slavs in the Seattle area who belong to a variety of Evangelical churches and so few Orthodox and even fewer Greek Catholics.

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Please see this thread in the Prayer Forum.

Many years,

Neil


"One day all our ethnic traits ... will have disappeared. Time itself is seeing to this. And so we can not think of our communities as ethnic parishes, ... unless we wish to assure the death of our community."
Re: Carpathian Mountain Outreach 2012 [Re: Ray S.] #381716
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The sheer arrogance and willful ignorance of such who call themselves Christians never ceases to amaze me. A lot of good it has done the Catholic and Orthodox hierarchs and faithful to get in bed with these people on political issues in the United States. It is one thing to have shared views on moral issues, it is another to tag along with them and their methods given their utter contempt for us and our faith. Their failure to accomplish anything of meaning in that regard here over the past thirty years is telling notwithstanding their hold over part of the electorate in parts of the country. Just look at the abortion statistics and public opinion polling on gay marriage.

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I've worked with all kinds of Christians--and those who call themselves Christians--for my entire career. One of the fundamental (no pun intended) tenents of the Anabaptist movement is that Catholics and Orthodox are Hell-bound heretics who must be converted. Their view of history is that the Church got off track shortly after the Apostles and that it was suddenly "refound" by their forefathers. A few years ago some of these people had a big missionary push to convert young Catholics at the World Youth Day when Pope John Paul II of thrice blessed memory came to the United States. Their hatred of us is something that just cannot seem to be bridged, no matter how much ecumenical activity goes on between us officially.

Another problem is that this movement--for lack of a better word--is not centrally orchestrated. Calling themselves Evangelicals, you can find all stripes from Westboro Baptist Church to independent churches to denominational groups.

A former employer was told by one of his pastors to fire me because he, as a Christian, should not be "unevenly yoked with an unbeliever" like me, a Catholic. When I wasn't, the man would enter the place where I worked by another door so as not to have to have direct contact with me.

I'm sure that this is why we Christians are no match for militant Islam. We cannot band together because there is still so much hatred beneath the surface from our bruising history.

Bob

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One of the reasons why the Catholics must be evangelized in the Carpathian's is because,
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Idolatry is real in the Carpathians. Thousands of people every day are praying to stone images which can never save them.
Statues Like This! You can spot these Godless heretics in their "Churches". A typical Greek Catholic church in Hrebeniv. Their evil Catholic priest will try and stop them.
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When we moved up to Volosyanka to show The Light of the World film, the Catholic priest tried to stop us. He fobade the director of the hall to unlock the doors for us.
One the evil Catholic priest lives in a Church like this!

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Re: Carpathian Mountain Outreach 2012 [Re: theophan] #381732
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Nobody should ever confuse Anabaptists with Baptists. Anabaptists are the decendents of the radical reformation. They are the Menonites,Amish, and Bretheren. They are not fundamentalists in the usual sense of the word. The Baptists are mostly decenting Calvinist who developed on the American frontier. Most non-Baptist fundamentalists also are decended from Calvinist. These groups are the most virulently anti Catholic. Ignorance and ego are there stock in trade.

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I wonder if we should start a mission in Ft. Worth Texas? We could start by handing out tracks at the Fair Park Baptist Church.

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I believe "Catholic Answers" got started by a 'tract-on-the-windshield' war with some Baptists.

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Re: Carpathian Mountain Outreach 2012 [Re: JimG] #381738
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Originally Posted by JimG
Nobody should ever confuse Anabaptists with Baptists. Anabaptists are the decendents of the radical reformation. They are the Menonites,Amish, and Bretheren. They are not fundamentalists in the usual sense of the word. The Baptists are mostly decenting Calvinist who developed on the American frontier. Most non-Baptist fundamentalists also are decended from Calvinist. These groups are the most virulently anti Catholic. Ignorance and ego are there stock in trade.


Aye, just as no one should confuse this Zwinglian ilk with true Calvinists.

These virulently anti-sacramental self-described "evangelicals" would consider Calvin "too Catholic".

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