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#383243 - 07/23/12 09:43 PM
Re: Pro-life rallies
[Re: Carson Daniel]
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Having acquired a minor criminal history on account of my participation in such events I am qualified to speak to your question.
They most certainly can be forms of evangelization. They can also be fora on which people show off or cut di-does or get the attention they crave. It ain't necessarily always about the babies, or the mothers or even Jesus. The sticking point is, however, that the intended target audience seldom perceives it as proclamation of good news but rather as aggravating and downright infuriating. If you choose to get involved in this kinda stuff be prepared to have your car vandalised, or a brick or human excrement thrown at you from a passing car. Or have the local police called on you.
I used to get involved in pro-life, Operation Rescue rallies and they'd always have an unintentional ecumenical aspect. We Catholics found ourselves side-to-side with the fundoids and the anti-Catholic evangelical Protestants. We'd pray the rosary or the Divine mercy chaplet and they'd sing hymns from their traditions; and sometimes their clergy would attempt to exorcise an abortuary. Which always gave me the heebie-jeebies.
Once, during an organizational meeting for the next Operation Rescue "strike", one of the fundoid ministers asked the Catholic organizer if it couldn't be arranged that the Catholics abstain from praying the rosary during the event, as this practice offended the sensibilities of the fundies and the evangelicals.
To which the Catholic man replied, "I see your point. Our praying the rosary makes you folks feel the same way we Catholics feel when you interrogate us about "getting saved" or if we've "accepted Jesus as our personal Lord and Saviour."
That observation put the kabosh on THAT.
On another occasion, when an Operation Rescue rally was held at a local RC parish, yours truly offered to show the same evangelical minister the interior of the church. He accepted the invitation so I escorted him into the church and as he gazed (no doubt in horror) at the large crucifix and the devotional statuary with vigil lamps burning in front of them, I told him, "This is what they're talkin' about when they sing that song about "Gimme That Old-Time Religion."
I don't think he got it, but who knows? Maybe on down the line he'll remember that and it'll get him to thinkin'.
What also struck me was the complete absence of any identifiable Orthodox Christians at such events. However, today they are more visible and present, thanks be to God.
Edited by sielos ilgesys (07/23/12 09:51 PM)
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#383249 - 07/23/12 11:30 PM
Re: Pro-life rallies
[Re: sielos ilgesys]
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I used to get involved in pro-life, Operation Rescue rallies and they'd always have an unintentional ecumenical aspect. We Catholics found ourselves side-to-side with the fundoids and the anti-Catholic evangelical Protestants. We'd pray the rosary or the Divine mercy chaplet and they'd sing hymns from their traditions; and sometimes their clergy would attempt to exorcise an abortuary. Which always gave me the heebie-jeebies.
Once, during an organizational meeting for the next Operation Rescue "strike", one of the fundoid ministers.... John 9:49-50 - John answered, “Master, we saw someone casting out demons in your name, and we tried to stop him, because he does not follow with us." But Jesus said to him, “Do not stop him, for the one who is not against you is for you.”Romans 15:7 - Welcome one another as Christ has welcomed you, for the glory of God.I commend your pro-life work and stand with you. I reject your mistreatment of brothers in Christ, and even your references to them. Though they do not possess the fullness of the Gospel, they are still one with us. Treat each as if he was Christ Himself. That wins more hearts then making fun of them.
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#383357 - 07/25/12 04:35 PM
Re: Pro-life rallies
[Re: Carson Daniel]
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I believe that getting involved with these events does more for those involved than for the hoped for audience. Surely, some babies are saved and perhaps the hard-hearted government will change. But giving people a way to express the truth builds their faith. At least that is how I see it. That is how I have come to view these events. We attend the West Coast Walk for Life every year. It is beautiful and edifying to see the numbers of families and young people involved and makes us feel less isolated. I like to think that it shows a personal face to the world, but unfortunately only to the few tourists in San Francisco who are there to see it. Last year, the walk got almost no press coverage. It reinvigorates us and helps protect against apathy. I think it might also help the silent, non-activist person who simply doesn't think abortion is a good thing, but has started to view him or herself as extremist because that's the way pro-lifers have been painted. Elizabeth
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#383381 - 07/26/12 02:55 AM
Re: Pro-life rallies
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Well, I reckon we're even. I reject your fancy that I mistreated any of those Protestants in the manner I wrote of my interactions with them.
Pax tecum. Let's blow it off and move on.
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#383395 - 07/26/12 12:32 PM
Re: Pro-life rallies
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Esu kaltas. My bad. Whatever.
Like I said (I'm beginning to sound like a trained parrot here): Pax tecum. Let's blow it off and move on.
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#383474 - 07/28/12 01:32 PM
Re: Pro-life rallies
[Re: sielos ilgesys]
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What also struck me was the complete absence of any identifiable Orthodox Christians at such events Many Orthodox don't believe abortion is an issue they should concern themselves with. It is something that happens, "in the bedroom." (Yes, I have heard an Orthodox priest say this) One of the many reasons why I am not Orthodox. BTW, I have tried for years to get the local Coptic Church to at the very least hold a prayer service in their Church for the unborn. Never have gotten even a response! A patriarch who ‘generally speaking, respects human life’
Edited by Ray S. (07/28/12 01:51 PM)
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