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#383517 - 07/30/12 01:29 AM
Re: Christians or Stoics?
[Re: HeavenlyBlack]
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Christian asceticism should actually open one's heart and mind to the wonders of God's creation and the beauty that surrounds us. We are not dualists, who exalt the spirit and despise the material, for God created all things visible and invisible, and He saw that they were good. On the other hand, we do not allow the flesh to dominate us; we do not relish sensuality for its own sake, and we attempt to master the disordered passions precisely so as to be able to see clearly the will and hand of God in all creation.
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#383722 - 08/03/12 11:32 AM
Re: Christians or Stoics?
[Re: HeavenlyBlack]
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So why would autism keep you out of monastic life? And, inter alia, most monks are laymen, too.
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#383746 - 08/03/12 05:53 PM
Re: Christians or Stoics?
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Sounds like a monastery would be a very good place for you.
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#383800 - 08/04/12 04:59 PM
Re: Christians or Stoics?
[Re: HeavenlyBlack]
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Several Orthodox monasteries in Ohio. Just visit.
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#383807 - 08/04/12 09:34 PM
Re: Christians or Stoics?
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Already got turned away from a Franciscan friary. Yes, our modern, up-to-date Catholic Church only has room for bright, shiny people.
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#383809 - 08/04/12 10:05 PM
Re: Christians or Stoics?
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Already got turned away from a Franciscan friary. Yes, our modern, up-to-date Catholic Church only has room for bright, shiny people. You can't help but wonder how many Saints would have been turned away in times past.
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#383815 - 08/05/12 02:33 AM
Re: Christians or Stoics?
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Already got turned away from a Franciscan friary. Yes, our modern, up-to-date Catholic Church only has room for bright, shiny people. You can't help but wonder how many Saints would have been turned away in times past. Which leads me to this follow-up question: would having a "checkered" past prevent someone from entering even the priesthood, from the perspective of the Eastern Christianity, even when such sins associated with the past in question have been absolved, when I had confessed them?
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#383822 - 08/05/12 05:24 PM
Re: Christians or Stoics?
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There are only two things which debar someone from being ordained in the Eastern Church, regardless of repentance and absolution: first, having been married more than once (or being married to someone who has married more than once); second, having borne arms or shed blood.
As to checkered pasts, ask St. Augustine about his concubine and his flirtation with Manicheism.
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