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#386462 - 09/23/12 11:43 AM Byzantine Homeschooling
Wheelbarrow Offline
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Registered: 03/22/11
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Loc: Ireland
We are going to give homeschooling a go with our children. Has anyone here any knowledge of a school like St.Elizabeth Ann Seton that does Byzantine?

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#386463 - 09/23/12 12:06 PM Re: Byzantine Homeschooling [Re: Wheelbarrow]
JimG Offline
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Definitely check out this blog. http://remnantofremnant.blogspot.com/

Also this one.

http://inunionwithrome.blogspot.com/

The author can give you a lot of advice.

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#386464 - 09/23/12 12:09 PM Re: Byzantine Homeschooling [Re: Wheelbarrow]
JimG Offline
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Definitely check out this blog. http://remnantofremnant.blogspot.com/

Also this one.

http://inunionwithrome.blogspot.com/

The author can give you a lot of advice.

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#386475 - 09/24/12 07:14 AM Re: Byzantine Homeschooling [Re: Wheelbarrow]
Wheelbarrow Offline
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Thanks Jim. I'll have a look into it.

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#386485 - 09/24/12 04:35 PM Re: Byzantine Homeschooling [Re: Wheelbarrow]
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I am not aware of any Byzantine Catholic homeschooling programs. I'm in my 6th year of homeschooling and I have been looking. There are a few Orthodox programs, but nothing that is structured and laid out like Seton, with the support of being enrolled in a school. We use some materials from Catholic Heritage Curriculum, but mostly secular. (Catholic Heritage Curriculum, by the way, is very Latin, as is Seton.) We supplement with Byzantine Catholic and /or Orthodox materials when we can.

Let us know if you come up with something in your search.

Elizabeth

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#386488 - 09/24/12 05:53 PM Re: Byzantine Homeschooling- Seton [Re: babochka]
Tamiian Offline
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We use the Ruthenian catechism books along with other materials- but I believe that Seton does have a recommended cirriculum list for Byzantine Catholic children- they don't publish anything themselves, though.

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#386489 - 09/24/12 06:42 PM Re: Byzantine Homeschooling- Seton [Re: Wheelbarrow]
Ot'ets Nastoiatel' Offline
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Very Rev. Archpriest Joseph Stanichar in Seattle, Washington hosts a successful homeschooling program in his parish (St. John Chrysostom Byz. Cath).

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#386492 - 09/24/12 07:30 PM Re: Byzantine Homeschooling- Seton [Re: Wheelbarrow]
Our Lady's slave Offline
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Wheebarrow

Please be aware that you will have to persuade the Irish Education authorities that you have good reason to wish to do this, and also that you are capable of teaching your children at home and satisfying their educational requirements.

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#386496 - 09/24/12 08:13 PM Re: Byzantine Homeschooling- Seton [Re: Wheelbarrow]
Wheelbarrow Offline
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Thanks all. I hear Seton is good but it depends upon the parents temperment and how they work with deadlines. Some kids who were homeschooled didn't like seton but preferred Kolbe instead.

OLS, I don't have to persuade any authority to homeschool my children as it's my God given right and something Pope John Paul II repeatedly stated time and time again. But the welfare act of 2000 in Ireland which saw a repeal of the school attendance act in 1929 - 67 saw a reformulation of the law itself, so

''Under the Act parents or guardians of home educated children are obliged to provide details of the educational provision to their child(ren) to the NEWB. Under the Constitution children have the right to receive a “certain minimum education”. If the application is approved then their child(ren) will be included in the register. Registration is not an automatic process and may possibly be refused. An appeal process has been included in the Act for such an event.''

Even if it was rejected by authority, ( the application that is ) I won't allow myself to be intimidated by any socialist or communist state but will instead appeal to the authority given me from above.

But we've been told by homeschooling Ireland that they have never heard of a case of anyone being rejected so that's good news. They especially like to know that you are going through a school like seton. So you fill in the application and they simply call out to the house once to see what it is you are teaching the children and that's that. They do not however assess your educational background, just as long as your not cuckoo you'll be alright. Whats the homeschooling laws like in Britain?

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#386499 - 09/24/12 08:24 PM Re: Byzantine Homeschooling- Seton [Re: Wheelbarrow]
Our Lady's slave Offline
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I have no idea - I was state educated and my children were in Independent schools, oh and so were my husband and his sister.

My husband taught in the State system and I worked in the State system also

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#386501 - 09/24/12 08:50 PM Re: Byzantine Homeschooling- Seton [Re: Tamiian]
babochka Offline
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A
Originally Posted By: Tamiian
We use the Ruthenian catechism books along with other materials- but I believe that Seton does have a recommended cirriculum list for Byzantine Catholic children- they don't publish anything themselves, though.


We also use the Ruthenian catechism.

I think Seton's Byzantine book recommendations are for high school level students, and they are suggestions for additions to their basic curriculum, not a replacement for the religion curriculum.

I've used the Seton readers and my children have enjoyed them. For the most part, our education style and my children's learning style isn't a good fit for Seton. I have several friends who use Kolbe and absolutely love it. Kolbe is very strong in literature and writing.

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#386524 - 09/25/12 11:59 AM Re: Byzantine Homeschooling- Seton [Re: babochka]
Wheelbarrow Offline
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Originally Posted By: babochka
A
Originally Posted By: Tamiian
We use the Ruthenian catechism books along with other materials- but I believe that Seton does have a recommended cirriculum list for Byzantine Catholic children- they don't publish anything themselves, though.


We also use the Ruthenian catechism.

I think Seton's Byzantine book recommendations are for high school level students, and they are suggestions for additions to their basic curriculum, not a replacement for the religion curriculum.

I've used the Seton readers and my children have enjoyed them. For the most part, our education style and my children's learning style isn't a good fit for Seton. I have several friends who use Kolbe and absolutely love it. Kolbe is very strong in literature and writing.


Yeah I continue to hear a lot of good things about Kolbe.

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#386541 - 09/25/12 09:13 PM Re: Byzantine Homeschooling- Seton [Re: Wheelbarrow]
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It's not, technically speaking, the "Ruthenian Catechism": it was a set of religious instruction materials developed by all the Eastern Catholic jurisdiction in the U.S. working in concert--a rare example of inter-ecclesial cooperation that we should emulate more often.

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#386605 - 09/27/12 01:33 PM Re: Byzantine Homeschooling- Seton [Re: Our Lady's slave]
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We homeschooled the older two from pre-school all the way through 12th grade. In terms of catechetical material, the ECDD material (as Stuart mentioned it is surely not a "Ruthenian Catechism") was somewhat helpful but simplistic. We relied most heavily on piecing together our own supplemental material we found here and there. Most of that was Orthodox and various Ukrainian materials (Catholic and Orthodox) we found here and there.

But in reality the mainstay of our catechetical formation was the Liturgy and attendance at liturgical services throughout the year, keeping the feasts and fasts and other realities that go along with living in the domestich church.

As far as curricula go, we found Seton to be too rigid and constricting. We went with Kolbe because they were more flexible with substituting not just catechetical material, but with allowing us a more classical great-books approach that we took with our sons. As they entered high school years, we joined a local homeschooling cooperative which worked very well, and we had our own sports teams that competed in private school high school sports leagues.

Homeschooling is not for everyone, and has to be a family endeavor with realistic expectations. I am myself a former private school teacher, and have seen in some families it was a disaster.

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#386608 - 09/27/12 03:50 PM Re: Byzantine Homeschooling [Re: Wheelbarrow]
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But in reality the mainstay of our catechetical formation was the Liturgy and attendance at liturgical services throughout the year, keeping the feasts and fasts and other realities that go along with living in the domestich church.


Bravo! Well done!

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