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Re: Ukrainian Catholic Cathedral in Kyiv Consecrated [Re: griego catolico] #398351
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Originally Posted by griego catolico
I wouldn't go that far. It certainly doesn't look like this: http://veneremurcernui.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/fuksas-575x351.jpg

I did not know that the Borg Collective had its own Church. laugh

Originally Posted by griego catolico
The cathedral does look like a church to me, although modern in style. I am not crazy though about the green dome- I believe it is copper that since changed color.

Not sure why the UGCC went for a modern look. I wished it had looked more like the future cathedral in Kyiv for the UOC-MP: http://festzmi.org/sites/festzmi.org/files/imagecache/highslide_full/IMG_1360.JPG

I agree that the Church in the linked picture is a pretty structure. It clearly looks like a Church instead of a missile silo.

Re: Ukrainian Catholic Cathedral in Kyiv Consecrated [Re: Apotheoun] #398373
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Originally Posted by Apotheoun
Originally Posted by Orthodox Catholic
Actually, I agree with you! It is just too modern a building.

I am not a fan of modernist looking Churches either, but I hope the general appearance of the building will improve when more iconography is placed on the walls inside.


Well, this is the planned iconostasis for the patriarchal cathedral.

Re: Ukrainian Catholic Cathedral in Kyiv Consecrated [Re: Apotheoun] #398399
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Originally Posted by Apotheoun
Originally Posted by griego catolico
I wouldn't go that far. It certainly doesn't look like this: http://veneremurcernui.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/fuksas-575x351.jpg

I did not know that the Borg Collective had its own Church. laugh

Originally Posted by griego catolico
The cathedral does look like a church to me, although modern in style. I am not crazy though about the green dome- I believe it is copper that since changed color.

Not sure why the UGCC went for a modern look. I wished it had looked more like the future cathedral in Kyiv for the UOC-MP: http://festzmi.org/sites/festzmi.org/files/imagecache/highslide_full/IMG_1360.JPG

I agree that the Church in the linked picture is a pretty structure. It clearly looks like a Church instead of a missile silo.


The church on the picture looks like ALL orthodox churches built in Russia - and like they have always been. It is not bad but it is not unique.

I like the new UCC Cathedral much better.

Re: Ukrainian Catholic Cathedral in Kyiv Consecrated [Re: Orthodox Catholic] #398400
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Originally Posted by Orthodox Catholic
Dear Lawrence,

Actually, I agree with you! It is just too modern a building.

And, personally, I secretly hoped that, by now, there would be perfect unity between the UGCC and Ukrainian Orthodoxy so that there would not have been a need for separate UGCC churches and the cathedral in Kyiv.

And why couldn't the UGCC kept its main centre in Lviv, and not venture into Kyiv which is really an Orthodox city?

Just some thoughts.

Alex


Because Kyiv is a capital of Ukraine and UCC is not Orthodox.

Re: Ukrainian Catholic Cathedral in Kyiv Consecrated [Re: Vox Populi] #398524
08/28/13 02:36 PM
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Dear Voxy,

Kyiv is the capital of Ukraine? Thank you!!

The UCC is not Orthodox? Thank you, once again!

What would I do without you . . . ?

Alex

Re: Ukrainian Catholic Cathedral in Kyiv Consecrated [Re: Orthodox Catholic] #398594
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Did UOC-KP send a rep ? I suspect MP did not. Just curious.

Re: Ukrainian Catholic Cathedral in Kyiv Consecrated [Re: DMD] #398595
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Yes, the UOC-KP did send a representative and the Kyivan Patriarch did issue a formal letter of best wishes to the UGCC for the occasion.

Alex

Re: Ukrainian Catholic Cathedral in Kyiv Consecrated [Re: Ray S.] #398633
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The church can be listed as one of the ugliest I have ever seen. Could make the cover of "Ugly As Sin" book.

Perhaps you've never seen Sacred Heart in Livonia (BCCA):
[Linked Image]

Re: Ukrainian Catholic Cathedral in Kyiv Consecrated [Re: Vox Populi] #398636
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Would that all Greek Catholic cathedrals have the liturgical life of the Sobor of the Resurrection:
Monday-Friday:
Matins and Hours 6:30
Divine Liturgy
Vespers 6:00 p.m.

Saturday:
Matins and Hours 6:30
Divine Liturgy
Great Vespers and Matins (Vigil/Vsenischne) 6:00 p.m.

Sunday:
Hours 7:00
Divine Liturgy
Vespers 6:00 p.m.
Akathist 6:40 p.m.


Re: Ukrainian Catholic Cathedral in Kyiv Consecrated [Re: Diak] #398717
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Absolutely!!

On the other hand, they are following closely the liturgical standard of the Kyiv-Caves Lavra and the Orthodox Churches of Kyiv.

"Nec plus, nec minus, nec aliter" takes on new meaning in such a case.

Alex

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Re: Ukrainian Catholic Cathedral in Kyiv Consecrated [Re: Diak] #398730
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We have more than a few oddities building wise on the Orthodox side of things, but I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings about their Church building..... but you're right, the one you posted is ugly on the outside for sure.... but it is what's inside that counts....

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Re: Ukrainian Catholic Cathedral in Kyiv Consecrated [Re: DMD] #398736
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Re: Ukrainian Catholic Cathedral in Kyiv Consecrated [Re: Diak] #398738
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Originally Posted by Diak
Would that all Greek Catholic cathedrals have the liturgical life of the Sobor of the Resurrection:
Monday-Friday:
Matins and Hours 6:30
Divine Liturgy
Vespers 6:00 p.m.

Saturday:
Matins and Hours 6:30
Divine Liturgy
Great Vespers and Matins (Vigil/Vsenischne) 6:00 p.m.

Sunday:
Hours 7:00
Divine Liturgy
Vespers 6:00 p.m.
Akathist 6:40 p.m.



What??!! No recitation of the rosary scheduled???!!! shocked
Just Kidding!!! wink

Anyway, is there full video of the consecration?

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