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Conception of the Mother of God #402067 12/09/13 10:12 PM
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Did anyone else note with irony that while on the Metropolia's calendar the feast remained on the Latin date of Dec 8, the Latin Church transferred the the solemnity to Byzantine date of Dec 9 because an Advent Sunday cannot be displaced?


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Re: Conception of the Mother of God [Re: Fr. Deacon Lance] #402082 12/10/13 12:02 PM
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Aye.

Re: Conception of the Mother of God [Re: Fr. Deacon Lance] #402108 12/11/13 11:54 AM
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Hmm....so why don't we move it to the 9th permanently? What would it take....a change in particular law?


Re: Conception of the Mother of God [Re: Fr. Deacon Lance] #402109 12/11/13 12:30 PM
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A quick note, it was observed on the 8th in the 1962 liturgical calendar...

Re: Conception of the Mother of God [Re: Paul B] #402112 12/11/13 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul B
Hmm....so why don't we move it to the 9th permanently? What would it take....a change in particular law?


The official Ruthenian recension books still have the Conception of the Mother of God on Dec 9. It was moved in the US by Bishops Stephen and Nicholas effective 1967: "... the Feast of the Immaculate Conception, since it is the patronal feast of the United States, will be celebrated on December 8 for the sake of uniformity of observance in this country"(The Liturgical Year of the Byzantine-Slavonic Rite by Basil Shereghy, Page 10).

Which in my opinion was a silly thing to do. What uniformity was established? They didn't make it a Holy Day of Obligation as it is in the Latin Church which was sson to declare they would move it to the Dec 9 if Dec 8 fell on a Sunday. It broke uniformity with the Ukrainians, Melkites, and every other Greek Catholic Church that didn't move the date.

It is time for the Council of Hierarchs to officially move the Feast back to Dec 9 so we can be in uniformity with our own tradition.


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Re: Conception of the Mother of God [Re: Fr. Deacon Lance] #402113 12/11/13 07:13 PM
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'nother quick note, the 9th is a Solemnity but not a holy day of obligation...



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