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Proskomidiya - "Place, master" #404631 03/29/14 05:38 AM
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Good evening,

In respect of the following prayer during Old Rite proskomidiya, before the piercing:

"Place, master." / "The Lamb of God is placed for the life of the whole world."

Does anybody know or have a view on the allegorical, patristic or other context of this? For instance, is it typically interpreted as the laying of the Body in the new tomb? Or is it more "utilitarian" than this (e.g., simply placing the Lamb down on the diskos)? Are there good sources available to consult on this?

This topic has came up at New Liturgical Movement during the current series on the Offertory.

Thanks,
Deacon Anton

Re: Proskomidiya - "Place, master" [Re: Dcn Anton] #404645 03/29/14 02:54 PM
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Our Byzantine Catholic Liturgikon reads...
Deacon: "Reverend Father, lift it out."
Priest: "For his life is taken from the earth."

The scriptural reference is Isaiah 53:8 Here is the context "In his humiliation His judgment was taken away, and who will declare His generation? For His life is taken from the earth, and because of the lawlessness of My people He was led to death." (NKJV)

The dialog of this part of the proskomedia is rich, practically verbatim, of Isaiah 53:7-8.


Re: Proskomidiya - "Place, master" [Re: Paul B] #404647 03/29/14 04:08 PM
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Fr Paul, thanks.

The portion that I was referring to, does not seem to allude to Isaiah. It occurs, in the Old Russian Rite, after the portion you mention, between "Sacrifice, master / Sacrificed ..." and "Pierce, master / One of the solders ..." (i.e., it is not in the New Russian Rite nor, as far as I am aware, in the Ruthenian or other rescensions). Here it is in context:

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The deacon says: Sacrifice, master. The priest cuts the Lamb crosswise, saying:
Sacrificed is the Lamb of God That taketh away the sins of the world, for the life and salvation of the world.
The deacon says: Place, master.
The priest places the Holy Lamb on the holy diskos and says:
The Lamb of God is placed for the life of the world.

The deacon says: Pierce, master.
The priest pierces it on the right side with the holy lance, saying:
One of the soldiers with a spear pierced His side, and forthwith came there out blood and water. And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true.



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