The Byzantine Forum
Newest Members
Vigilante, Poliscifi, The Cub, P H, Hardrada
5603 Registered Users
Who's Online Now
2 registered members (LaudeturIesus, Collin Nunis), 72 guests, and 472 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Latest Photos
Church of the Holy Trinity (UGCC) - Brazil
Papal Audience 10 November 2017
Upgraded Russian icon corner
Russian Greek Catholic Global Congress
OL EuroEast II (2007) Group
Forum Statistics
Forums26
Topics34,738
Posts411,939
Members5,603
Most Online2,716
Jun 7th, 2012
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3
Re: Translation of the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom in Irish [Re: theophan] #409817 12/07/14 10:56 PM
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 12
C
Constantine Cesak Offline OP
Junior Member
OP Offline
Junior Member
C
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 12
Originally Posted by theophan
Constantine:

Christ is in our midst!!

Welcome to the forum.

All new members are put on full moderation. It is not something peculiar to you. We've had to do this because of some of the new members who have come here and ahve caused problems.

I'll ask the admin to give you full privileges.

Bob
Moderator


Dear Mr. Theophan,

I figured as much; at first I thought I would be off the hook in no time because I've had this account for a few months, so then I figured it's based on posts. I'm okay with waiting: I wouldn't want to demand the rules be bent for me.

Thank you very much for looking out for me,
Constantine

Re: Translation of the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom in Irish [Re: dochawk] #409890 12/11/14 09:50 PM
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 87
R
Roman refugee Offline
Member
Offline
Member
R
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 87


It was a sad day when I learned that Bushmills is made in Occupied Ireland . . .

[/quote]

What about Jamison's?

Re: Translation of the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom in Irish [Re: Constantine Cesak] #409910 12/12/14 08:52 PM
Joined: Aug 1998
Posts: 4,157
Fr. Deacon Lance Offline
Moderator
Member
Offline
Moderator
Member
Joined: Aug 1998
Posts: 4,157
Jamison's is made in free and Catholic Ireland! Drink up!


My cromulent posts embiggen this forum.
Re: Translation of the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom in Irish [Re: Fr. Deacon Lance] #409915 12/12/14 10:57 PM
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,006
dochawk Offline
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,006
Jamison's is one of multiple Irish in my home cabinet--but always there.

We just finished the Jamison Black at the office this afternoon frown

hawk

Re: Translation of the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom in Irish [Re: Constantine Cesak] #409916 12/13/14 01:11 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 495
F
Fr. Al Offline
Member
Offline
Member
F
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 495
Ah, well, a little Scotch is good, whether it be Scottish blood in the veins or "the creature" in a glass!

Re: Translation of the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom in Irish [Re: Constantine Cesak] #409919 12/13/14 01:59 PM
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 87
R
Roman refugee Offline
Member
Offline
Member
R
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 87
Scotch, certainly. Especially in the North, since many "Irish" up there were given land by the great villain Cromwell. But Scotch are (were) Celts too, am I right?

As an Irish American born to the Roman tradition, whose family traces to Westmeath, and who proudly carries the most common Irish surname extant outside the Emerald Isle, it seems to me to be well nigh time to bury that old hatchet, er, sheleighly. Those on the Island, of course, will decide that.

Re: Translation of the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom in Irish [Re: Constantine Cesak] #409923 12/13/14 03:15 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 495
F
Fr. Al Offline
Member
Offline
Member
F
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 495
Yes, the Scots are Celts and yes, Cromwell was a villain.

Re: Translation of the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom in Irish [Re: Constantine Cesak] #409974 12/17/14 09:59 AM
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 7,309
S
StuartK Offline
Member
Offline
Member
S
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 7,309
The English are Celts, too. In fact, just about everybody native to Ireland and the British Isles is descended from the Celts, with only small admixture from the Saxons and Vikings, and hardly anything at all from the Romans and Normans.

See: Bryan Sykes, "Saxons, Vikings and Celts: The Genetic Roots of Britain and Ireland".

Re: Translation of the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom in Irish [Re: Constantine Cesak] #410357 01/27/15 03:26 PM
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 9,962
I
Irish Melkite Offline
Global Moderator
Member
Offline
Global Moderator
Member
I
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 9,962
Originally Posted by Constantine Cesak
Buíochas le Dia!
For what it's worth, I can help you narrow down your search. An article online says that the Divine Liturgy was first celebrated in Irish on Halloween, 1999, in the Melkite College of Rome, and the translation was personally blessed by Patriarch Maximos.


Constantine,

Actually,

Originally Posted by Father Archimandrite Serge
Saturday morning I served the Divine Liturgy at the Irish College, in the Chapel of the Irish Martyrs. It was the first time that the Divine Liturgy of Saint John Chrysostom had been offered in Rome in the Irish language (Patriarch Maximos V of Antioch approved the Irish translation on 1 October 1999).


the referenced Saturday was December 9, 2000.

The quote is from a letter written by Father Archimandrite Serge, of blessed memory, and quoted extensively on a page of the website of the Eparchy of Newton.

The Divine Liturgy in Irish Gaelic was first served, subsequent to its text being blessed by His Beatitude Maximos V, of blessed memory, in October 1999 - but that was in Dublin. I don't believe that it was as late as Halloween however.

Many years,

Neil


"One day all our ethnic traits ... will have disappeared. Time itself is seeing to this. And so we can not think of our communities as ethnic parishes, ... unless we wish to assure the death of our community."
Re: Translation of the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom in Irish [Re: Constantine Cesak] #410998 03/29/15 01:05 AM
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 2
C
C.M.S. Offline
Junior Member
Offline
Junior Member
C
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 2
Hi all,

Out of curiosity was anyone able to find the transcript of the Gaeilge Divine Liturgy? I'm searching it for it myself and have found some names that others have had success with emailing, but as I am a Celticist and currently an aspiring catechumen, it's something that I would really like to see.


Re: Translation of the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom in Irish [Re: Constantine Cesak] #411002 03/29/15 06:58 PM
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 315
JLF Offline
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 315
I think I published a very limited edition (like maybe 5 copies) of this translation for Fr Serge way back then, when he received the approval of Patriarch Maximos. I would have to search my archives for an electronic version (yes, I still do have computers and electronic books dating from the mid 1990s!), and my private library bookcases for a printed version (I usually kept one copy of special editions like this).

Are you looking for the text, or a recording of the October 1999 celebration?

Jack Figel
Eastern Christian Publications

Re: Translation of the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom in Irish [Re: Constantine Cesak] #411106 04/09/15 12:10 AM
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 2
C
C.M.S. Offline
Junior Member
Offline
Junior Member
C
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 2
Hi Jack -

Thanks for your response! I was specifically looking for the text, though I wouldn't mind having it in any form. If you happen to have either the electronic or print version(s) easily accessible, I would really appreciate that.

Have a blessed Holy Week!

Re: Translation of the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom in Irish [Re: Constantine Cesak] #411305 04/28/15 06:34 AM
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 2
D
dcnStephen Offline
Junior Member
Offline
Junior Member
D
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 2
Hi Jack et al,

First I apologies for 1) posting to an old thread (some forums are picky about that) and 2) hijacking this one. Please feel free to berate me as necessary if I should have started a fresh one...

I am also interested in obtaining a copy of Father Serge's Irish translation of the Liturgy of St John Chrysostom. He once sent me a portion of his then unfinished translation many years ago - it would have been 1997, I think - and it brought tears to my eye's - good ones. Unfortunatley, I ost contact with him shortly after. I would dearly love to have a copy of the completed Liturgy. If anyone can point me in the right direction, I would be most grateful.

In Christ
unworthy deacon Stephen

Re: Translation of the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom in Irish [Re: dcnStephen] #411334 05/01/15 09:53 AM
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 26,172
Orthodox Catholic Offline
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 26,172
Father Archimandrite Sergius Keleher sent me a copy of the Divine Liturgy in both Ukrainian and Irish (it has an icon of St Patrick and Blessed Nicholas Charnetsky on the front).

cIf you connect with St Kevin's Oratory in Dublin, they would doubtless send you a copy.

Alastair (Alex)

Last edited by Orthodox Catholic; 05/01/15 09:53 AM.
Re: Translation of the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom in Irish [Re: Constantine Cesak] #411339 05/02/15 08:47 AM
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,175
KO63AP Offline
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,175
Sashko, It has been a number of years since the Greco-Catholic community worshipped at St. Kevin's (part of the Pro-Cathedral).


Fr. Dcn. Stephen, I would suggest contacting the Greco-Catholic community directly via ugccie@gmail.com.

Page 2 of 3 1 2 3

Moderated by  Administrator, Father Anthony 

The Byzantine Forum provides message boards for discussions focusing on Eastern Christianity (though discussions of other topics are welcome). The views expressed herein are those of the participants and may or may not reflect the teachings of the Byzantine Catholic or any other Church. The Byzantine Forum and the www.byzcath.org site exist to help build up the Church but are unofficial, have no connection with any Church entity, and should not be looked to as a source for official information for any Church. All posts become property of byzcath.org. Contents copyright - 1996-2019 (Forum 1998-2019). All rights reserved.
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3