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POPE FRANCIS ANNOUNCES NEW CARDINALS #410131 01/05/15 10:00 AM
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But, not even one this announcement or the previous one from the Eastern Catholic Church or from Eastern Europe? Didn't Pope John Paul say that the Catholic Church breathes with two lungs - one Western and one Eastern?

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Re: POPE FRANCIS ANNOUNCES NEW CARDINALS [Re: Pavloosh] #410132 01/05/15 10:18 AM
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In fact, Archbishop Berhaneyesus Demerew Souraphiel of Addis Abeba is the head of an Eastern Catholic Church.

Re: POPE FRANCIS ANNOUNCES NEW CARDINALS [Re: Latin Catholic] #410144 01/05/15 05:13 PM
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Pavloosh,

I guess you didn't see the topic I had posted yesterday: A New Ge'ez Catholic Cardinal. smile

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Re: POPE FRANCIS ANNOUNCES NEW CARDINALS [Re: griego catolico] #410145 01/05/15 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by griego catolico
Pavloosh,

I guess you didn't see the topic I had posted yesterday: A New Ge'ez Catholic Cardinal. smile

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The newly elevated Ge'ez archbishop is the 8th Eastern Catholic in the College of Cardinals, more than enough representation of the East I think. (The Patriarch Emeritus of the Syrians and the Patriarch Emeritus of the Chaldeans, both recently deceased, were also Cardinals.)

Eastern Europe is represented by Cardinal Husar of the Ukrainians and Cardinal Muresan of the Romanians. Of course, there are also Latin Rite cardinals representing Eastern Europe.


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Re: POPE FRANCIS ANNOUNCES NEW CARDINALS [Re: Amadeus] #410146 01/05/15 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Amadeus

The newly elevated Ge'ez archbishop is the 8th Eastern Catholic in the College of Cardinals, more than enough representation of the East I think...


Well, it's one more consistory without Patriarch Sviatoslav being named. I think it's inevitable that he will be named in a future consistory.

After all... I'm betting he will be Pope! grin

Re: POPE FRANCIS ANNOUNCES NEW CARDINALS [Re: Pavloosh] #410158 01/07/15 12:40 PM
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Yes, Pavloosh, I am so disapointed that Pope Francis did not name Major Archbishop Sviatoslav Shepchuk of Ukraine as Cardinal.
He certainly qualifies and the time is ripe for him.

Re: POPE FRANCIS ANNOUNCES NEW CARDINALS [Re: griego catolico] #410159 01/07/15 12:42 PM
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I agree Griego catholico! His time is ripe for Cardinal and maybe more!

Re: POPE FRANCIS ANNOUNCES NEW CARDINALS [Re: Pavloosh] #410165 01/07/15 08:37 PM
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Isn't it entirely possible he already let his friend the Pope know he'd prefer not to be named?

Re: POPE FRANCIS ANNOUNCES NEW CARDINALS [Re: Pavloosh] #410168 01/08/15 05:07 AM
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Please don't forget that HB Lubomyr has not reposed.

Re: POPE FRANCIS ANNOUNCES NEW CARDINALS [Re: Our Lady's slave] #410170 01/08/15 08:31 AM
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What is your point?

Re: POPE FRANCIS ANNOUNCES NEW CARDINALS [Re: Pavloosh] #410172 01/08/15 09:38 AM
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Usually a cardinal is not named if there is a predecessor in the same see still living, even if the predecessor is retired. There was one exception that comes to mind that was noted as being very unusual--that of CArdinal Bevilaqua being named in Philadelphia when Cardinal Krol was still living.

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Re: POPE FRANCIS ANNOUNCES NEW CARDINALS [Re: griego catolico] #410176 01/08/15 03:47 PM
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Griego Catolico,

apparently you didn't notice that I posted a link to your post in this thread.

Theophan,

His Beatitude Lyubomyr (Cardinal Huzar) is over 80 and therefore unable to vote in a conclave to elect a new pope. The general rule seems to be that an archbishop is not named cardinal if his cardinal predecessor is not just still living, but living and able to vote in a conclave. On that score, His Beatitude Svyatoslav (Shevchuk) would qualify for "elevation" to the cardinalate

His Beatitude, however, is still only 44 and arguably too young to become a cardinal (Pope St. John Paul II was 47 when he was made a cardinal). Also, there are those who think that the heads of Eastern Catholic Churches don't need to be "promoted" cardinals. Apparently, Patriarch Maximos IV only reluctantly accepted "elevation" to the cardinalate, and Patriarchs Maximos V and Gregory III have not been made cardinals.

It remains to be seen if His Beatitude Svyatoslav will be made a cardinal or not. If he is, it may be seen as a sign of respect for Eastern Catholicism. If he is not, paradoxically, it may be seen as a sign of respect for Eastern Catholicism too.

Re: POPE FRANCIS ANNOUNCES NEW CARDINALS [Re: Latin Catholic] #410177 01/08/15 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Latin Catholic
apparently you didn't notice that I posted a link to your post in this thread.

I most certainly did notice. smile

Re: POPE FRANCIS ANNOUNCES NEW CARDINALS [Re: Michael_Thoma] #417357 08/28/17 04:38 PM
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It is entirely possible that Major Archbishop Sviatoslav Shevchuk (has he been named "Patriarch"?) has been named Cardinal "in pectoris" in deference to Russian Orthodox Patriarch Kirill of Moscow. Naming Sviatoslav cardinal would entirely upset Patriarch Kirill and set back Orthodox-Catholic unity dialogue back 1000 years.

Re: POPE FRANCIS ANNOUNCES NEW CARDINALS [Re: Pavloosh] #417358 08/28/17 05:29 PM
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Who cares if it would upset Kirill? I certainly don't. It seems to me that him and his "church" are the only Orthodox jurisdiction that have problems with Greek Catholics.It's high time he learns that he doesn't control all of Eastern Christianity. Patriarch Sviatoslav is a great man and should be able to be called a Patriarch without worrying if it's going to defend a man who won't give the Orthodox Church of Ukraine independence.

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