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Originally Posted by Recluse
I took my family to the Holy Orthodox Church.....eight years ago. smile

Yeah, once every eight years is enough for me too.

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Kidding, kidding!

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Actually Peter, the last time I was in an Orthodox church was eight years ago (where the Presbytera argued with me and told me to leave the Ukrainian Catholic church and join Orthodoxy etc. etc.).

If you come across an Orthodox church that is a tad more ecumenical or else less vituperant - please do let me know!

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Originally Posted by Orthodox Catholic
If you come across an Orthodox church that is a tad more ecumenical or else less vituperant - please do let me know!


I think the word you are looking for is: "vituperate."

But I prefer my Holy Orthodoxy without the ecumenism. wink

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Yes, "vituperative" et. al.

As for Holy Orthodoxy, sir - I admire your zeal in that regard.

Happily, there are Orthodox and then there are . . . ORTHODOX!!!

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I will stick with the former, evharisto poli . . . wink

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Originally Posted by Orthodox Catholic
Happily, there are Orthodox and then there are . . . ORTHODOX!!!


There are two? I think not. I'll stick with the Holy Orthodox Church.

Ευχαριστώ πολύ.

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Originally Posted by Recluse
But I prefer my Holy Orthodoxy without the ecumenism. wink
Eek, that's neither holy nor Orthodox. I think there were some anti-social, anti-unity, isolated some where around what was formerly called Ephesus. The few that didn't want to involve themselves with the worldwide community of believers now live in Selcuk and are cultural Muslims living in the rubble of former Christian civilization. There are a few towns like that.

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Dear Brother Recluse,

You know what I meant sir! But that you are "Wholly Orthodox" - that is a certainty.

Again, I admire you for that.

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Originally Posted by Recluse
But I prefer my Holy Orthodoxy without the ecumenism.

Because it changes the flavor, or because it cools it down too much? (Not to get off topic of course.)

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Originally Posted by Michael_Thoma
that's neither holy nor Orthodox.


Of course it is. Ecumenism takes many unholy forms.

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Originally Posted by Recluse
Originally Posted by Michael_Thoma
that's neither holy nor Orthodox.


Of course it is. Ecumenism takes many unholy forms.
ecumenism can take on orthodox and holy forms as well - being opposed to all ecumenism is not holy nor Orthodox

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Originally Posted by Recluse
But I prefer my Holy Orthodoxy without the ecumenism.

Because it changes the flavor, or because it cools it down too much? (Not to get off topic of course.)


Let us be zealous for the Tradition of our Holy, God-bearing Fathers; but may our zeal always be balanced by love.

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Originally Posted by Michael_Thoma
ecumenism can take on orthodox and holy forms as well


Well, I'm not going to get in an argument with you about what is "bad ecumenism" and what is "good ecumenism." That might be an interesting thread for you to start.

I feel that there are many ways that we can unite: against the horrors of abortion, gay marriage, and euthanasia. We can also unite to help the sick and suffering. At the same time I'm not going to walk into a protestant worship service and justify their Zwinglian understanding of the Eucharist.

It could be quite a vast subject to discuss.

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Originally Posted by Recluse
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Originally Posted by Recluse
But I prefer my Holy Orthodoxy without the ecumenism.

Because it changes the flavor, or because it cools it down too much? (Not to get off topic of course.)

Let us be zealous for the Tradition of our Holy, God-bearing Fathers; but may our zeal always be balanced by love.

Oops. Sorry, I thought we were talking about drinks. blush

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Originally Posted by Recluse
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ecumenism can take on orthodox and holy forms as well

Well, I'm not going to get in an argument with you about what is "bad ecumenism" and what is "good ecumenism." That might be an interesting thread for you to start.

I feel that there are many ways that we can unite: against the horrors of abortion, gay marriage, and euthanasia. We can also unite to help the sick and suffering. At the same time I'm not going to walk into a protestant worship service and justify their Zwinglian understanding of the Eucharist.

It could be quite a vast subject to discuss.

Yes, vast.

Without trying to discuss every person's understanding of the word "ecumenism", I'll just throw in this from my own experience: I have many times come under fire, on a certain CAtholic Forum that you may know of, because I support the Balamand Document "Uniatism, Method of Union of the Past, and the Present Search for Full Communion" ... but what's interesting about this is what has not happened: In none of those cases did the other Catholic(s) say that I'm too ecumenical.

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