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Eastern Catholic priest to be beatified #414136
12/21/15 09:53 AM
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On December 16th of this year, Rome approved a miracle through the intercession of UGCC priest, Father Ladislas Bukowinsky, who died in Karaganda, Kazakhstan in the seventies.

Further details are forthcoming.

Alex

Re: Eastern Catholic priest to be beatified [Re: Orthodox Catholic] #414399
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OK, one thing that could be surmised here is that the UGCC is simply miffed that Rome continues to refuse to have Metropolitan Andrew Sheptytsky beatified - while offering it a consolation prize such as the beatification of other, unknowns.

Can't find any press release on the UGCC website expressing acknowledgement of Rome's decision to beatify Fr. Bukovinsky (if someone more adept at the internet can find one, I would be very interested to read it).

It wouldn't be the first time the UGCC administration (and many others) were miffed at Rome's inaction in this regard.

I wonder what would happen if the UGCC just went ahead and canonized Sheptytsky as a saint of its Particular Church for veneration therein?

Would the sky fall in, does anyone suppose? Is it not the particular right of such churches to declare its own local saints?

Alex



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A bishop can get the process started, and start the investigation, but canonizations are governed by pontifical law. You can read St John Paul II's reworking of the process here: http://w2.vatican.va/content/john-p...11983_divinus-perfectionis-magister.html

Re: Eastern Catholic priest to be beatified [Re: Orthodox Catholic] #414428
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The whole thread is groundless - Bl. Władysław was certainly a Latin priest.

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You mean Father Bukovinsky was a Latin priest?

How do you know that? If that is true, then why is the Vatican emphasizing his Ukrainian identity without, at the same time, identifying his Particular Church?

Interesting . . . We await Rome's decision in the Cause of the Venerable Metropolitan Andrey Sheptytsky. Hopefully, Rome can learn to look past politics here.

Alex

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Isn't it possible that he was one of the many Latin Rite Ukrainian Galicians?

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Originally Posted by Fr. Al
Isn't it possible that he was one of the many Latin Rite Ukrainian Galicians?


Yes, he was baptized in the Roman rite at St. Barbara Roman Catholic Church in Berdychiv, Ukraine.

Re: Eastern Catholic priest to be beatified [Re: griego catolico] #414448
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Rome could have been more specific here, but certainly the Ukrainian Latin Catholic Church is more than deserving of their own saints and beati!

The Roman Catholic Church in Ukraine has, for example, chaplains in the armed forces fighting in southeastern Ukraine who are actually very sensitive to the EC and EO traditions of the soldiers there. They have also led the fight against corruption in the Ukrainian government and also against Putin's propaganda machine.

At the same time, one cannot help thinking that this was somehow a "bone" Rome has offered to the UGCC re: the delayed Beatification of Met. Andrey Sheptytsky.

So, no, Father Deacon Peter (from Poland) is wrong that such considerations are "groundless."

Alex

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All the "ground" of your considerations was the false supposition of Bl. Władysław being "an UGCC priest". As he was certainly not a member of the UGCC, but a Latin from Baptism to deathbed, your speculation loses its ground. A Latin priest's beatification as a "bone" for UGCC? Nice joke.

You are quite right in emphasizing the patriotic stance of the RCC in Ukraine. I has been known RCs from there (I mean central Ukraine, which is the "heartland" of Latins in Ukraine) since late 1980s, and they always seemed to me patriots of Ukraine.


Beatification process of Metropolitan Andrew has been completed; a decree on his heroic virtues was published some time ago. We await just a miracle - as Metropolitan was not a martyr, the decree remains unsufficient for the beatification. But the human process has been ended, the Congregation made her judgement.


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