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Christians Outraged as Muslim Turks Use Hagia Sophia for Ramadan #415773 06/11/16 12:57 PM
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by Frances Martel 7 Jun 2016

The Turkish government is permitting the use of the Hagia Sophia, a Greek Orthodox basilica until the conquest of Constantinople in the Fifteenth Century, for Islamic Ramadan prayers throughout the month, a move Greek officials are decrying as “retrograde” and disrespectful.

On Monday, the Turkish government began broadcasting Koranic recitations and the sahur, the traditional pre-dawn Ramadan breakfast, on public television live from the Hagia Sophia, which as functioned as a museum since the secularization of Turkey by Mustafa Kemal Atatürk. Lisa Daftari of Foreign Desk News reports that the broadcasts will continue throughout the month, representing the first time Ankara has permitted the extended-term use of the Hagia Sophia as a mosque since the Atatürk era.

Link: http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/06/07/muslims-use-hagia-sophia-ramadan-prayers/

Re: Christians Outraged as Muslim Turks Use Hagia Sophia for Ramadan [Re: Administrator] #415774 06/11/16 04:24 PM
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Christ is in our midst!!

Truly a tragedy, but what can we expect? The secular West is trying to change itself away from its Christian roots at home and gives little thought or care for the Christians of the Middle East. And since we are trying to rewrite our own history to give more credit to its "Muslim roots"--read that somewhere and wondered if I'd fallen into a parallel universe--why worry about Christian monuments of the past?

Remember Bill Clinton ordering bombing in the Balkans during the 1990s? When asked if he knew it was Orthodox Pascha, he is reported to have said "we don't care about the Orthodox." Well, we don't care about persecuting Catholics either so we just ought to look to the future as one rough patch for Apostolic believers.

Maybe the Lord will take some actions to let them know He is not pleased with this, since we don't worship the god of the Moslems.

Bob

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Re: Christians Outraged as Muslim Turks Use Hagia Sophia for Ramadan [Re: Administrator] #415775 06/11/16 07:48 PM
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The Jews close their Passover Seder with "next year in Jerusalem".

Orthodox Christians should close their Pascha liturgies with "next year in Byzantium".

And by "Byzantium" I really mean Hagia Sophia.

Re: Christians Outraged as Muslim Turks Use Hagia Sophia for Ramadan [Re: Administrator] #415776 06/12/16 03:34 PM
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Such fantasies do nothing for Christianity, its practice or its spread. I think we should stop clinging to the remains of dead empires. It seems some would have no problem bathing themselves in oceans of blood if it meant we could regain hold of some precious monuments.

Re: Christians Outraged as Muslim Turks Use Hagia Sophia for Ramadan [Re: SwanOfEndlessTales] #415779 06/13/16 04:52 AM
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Your comments remind me of St Lawrence when he was expected to lead his persecutors to the wealth of the church and it was not piles of gold and jewels but the poor he lead them to. It's people who are the church not bricks and Mortar. It's sad that those left behind in Turkey are the decedents of Christians whose ancestors at various times went over to Islam often because they had no choice.


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