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Re: Founding of catholic of old rite [Re: Bondarew Daniel] #415018
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I think it's very important to distinguish between the Old Believers and the many sects that arose contemporaneously with them and which account for any number of the strange ideas - see the series of threads discussing - links to which are contained in the stickied thread titled 'Resource Threads' at the head of this forum.

Many years,

Neil


"One day all our ethnic traits ... will have disappeared. Time itself is seeing to this. And so we can not think of our communities as ethnic parishes, ... unless we wish to assure the death of our community."
Re: Founding of catholic of old rite [Re: Irish Melkite] #415023
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Originally Posted by Irish Melkite
I think it's very important to distinguish between the Old Believers and the many sects that arose contemporaneously with them and which account for any number of the strange ideas - see the series of threads discussing - links to which are contained in the stickied thread titled 'Resource Threads' at the head of this forum.

Many years,

Neil


Yes, there were stranger groups than the Old Believers, but the Old Believers had plenty of strange ideas themselves. Everything I said above is with regards to the main body of Old Believers.

Re: Founding of catholic of old rite [Re: Bondarew Daniel] #415035
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Originally Posted by Irish Melkite
The Servant of God Father Patapios Emilianov was a Russian Orthodox presbyter in Nizhnaja Bogdanovka. In an effort to bring Popovotsy (priested) Old Believers into communion with the Russian Orthodox Church, the latter agreed that those who did so would be permitted to retain their historic praxis and unique spirituality. These were known as Edinovertsie or Uniate Russian Orthodox and Father Patapios' parish was such a former Popovotsy community.

In 1918, Father Patapios sought to enter communion with the Catholic Church. He was received, in orders, by Metropolitan Andrij and accompanied by his parishioners, numbering 852 adults. During the early '30s, Father Patapios, together with many Russian Catholic and Orthodox clergy and hierarchs, was arrested and transported to the gulags. On 14 August 1936, he was martyred in odium fidei at Nadvojtsy in the Republic of Karelia.

There are no books or webpages specifically devoted to him, as far as I know. The only photo of which I'm aware is copied on the Directory at http://www.byzcath.org/index.php/find-a-parish-mainmenu-111?sid=524:by_church.

Many years,

Neil


Neil, thanks for that info! I really appreciate it!

Originally Posted by Mar_Babai
I myself own the Old Orthodox Prayer book. I make my own Lestovkas as well and am greatly impressed by the piety of Pre_NIkonian Russia, especially how the Patriarch of Antioch, when visiting, said that all the laity have surpassed the desert fathers in their daily lives!


Mar Babai, I too would be curious about the lestovkas that you make. What materials do you use? Do you sell them? As Alex asked, could you provide some photos?

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Re: Founding of catholic of old rite [Re: Bondarew Daniel] #415145
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Neil, is this not the same priest?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potapy_Emelianov

Re: Founding of catholic of old rite [Re: Bondarew Daniel] #415150
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Yes, it is!

Many years,

Neil


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Re: Founding of catholic of old rite [Re: Bondarew Daniel] #415195
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Thanks for the confirmation, Neil!

I wish our Russian friend would return and share more with us. I would enjoy hearing more about him and his community in Russia.

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Late reply-

Sure! I use wooden dowels, q-tips and leather-like vinyl and wood beads.

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