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Ruthenien Recension [or other?] OCS Texts #418260
05/22/18 11:48 AM
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Glory to Jesus Christ and hello to all!

I am new in the forum, and a [prospective] seminarian, hopefully starting fall 2019 for the Archeparchy of Pittsburgh. Please pray for me!

On to the subject matter. I was a Slavic Studies major at the University of Pittsburgh, concentrating in language--for me, it was (1) Russian, (2) Slovak, and (3) Old Church Slavonic (the oldest written form--we mostly read Codex Zographensis, but a little other stuff). I get the impression that it has been awhile since the Eparchy has had a slavicist seminarian, so my hope is that my knowledge and love of language will be of great value to our Church.

I have a lot more learning to do before I can consider my reading knowledge of OCS anywhere near fluid and complete--at best, I can easily read through the Synoptic Gospels without much difficulty and usually with a little help from Russian-translated scripture. One of my projects right now is to improve that reading knowledge, and I am searching for texts--particularly the texts of the Ruthenien Recension. I know they are available in print from ECPubs, but they are a tad pricey, to say the least. I've yet to come across any OCS we Rutheniens use (or used, I should say) which is even written in Cyrillic, let alone easily obtainable, or in a digital format. There is plenty of Russian Slavonic text available, which I am grateful for. I would find it particularly helpful to work on translating service books and the services themselves, as the vocabulary differs from other writings (hence, I post here). If anyone has any digital or other resources they could forward along, I would be very grateful!

Nate

Re: Ruthenien Recension [or other?] OCS Texts [Re: Nathaniel Tapsak] #418262
05/22/18 03:29 PM
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Glory forever.

Nate,

Prayers for your continued discernment, and welcome to the forum.

I'm not sure of the source (of the scan) but a 1952 version of our Ruthenian Služebnik is available as a pdf. Here is the link:

Sluzebnik 1952

Also Rome's Greek Liturgicon may be of interest:

Liturgikon


Dcn. Anthony

Re: Ruthenien Recension [or other?] OCS Texts [Re: Nathaniel Tapsak] #418267
05/23/18 09:05 AM
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Glory Forever!
I wish you success in your studies. I attempted to PM you, but couldn't. I am here in Black Lick, PA about 40 miles west of Pittsburgh. I serve St. John the Baptist OCA parish. It is Archbishop Job's old church.
You must be busy with studies, but are you aware of the group in the Pittsburgh area that meets once a month to speak Czech and Slovak? I'm considering looking into it, because I have no one with which to practice my Slovak. Nobody in my flock speaks either Slovak or "po-nashomu". I get to speak Ukrainian when I visit the elderly wife of a priest in a nursing home.
For my part, I'm looking for materials in Hungarian. I've studied the language off and on about 25 years. I had hoped to chant the Paschal Troparion in Hungarian for our celebration, but didn't succeed. I did add Romanian and Ukrainian to the chanter's English, Slavonic, Greek, and Arabic.
Fr. Andrei

Re: Ruthenien Recension [or other?] OCS Texts [Re: Fr. Al] #418272
05/24/18 09:19 AM
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Fr. Andrei,

I have not heard about the group, though it would be very helpful since I'll be spending a year in Prešov soon. Do you have any information about them?

There is a family in the area from Bratislava who speak po-nashomu. They're all very talented singers and serve as cantors in various Byzantine Catholic churches around here, I believe.

Nate

Re: Ruthenien Recension [or other?] OCS Texts [Re: Nathaniel Tapsak] #418277
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Slava Isusu Christu!
I am a bit technologically challenged , being an old timer, but you can Google the Czech and Slovak meetup group in Pittsburgh. I have not yet attended any meetings, but I hope to make it to the get together this coming Wednesday evening. Perhaps you could make it as well.
Fr. Andrei

Re: Ruthenien Recension [or other?] OCS Texts [Re: Nathaniel Tapsak] #418292
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Nate, what's you direct personal email address so I can write to you directly? Since you are still new to this forum, your private message limit has been exceeded and so I can't contact you through that method.

Jack Figel, Publisher
Eastern Christian Publications

Re: Ruthenien Recension [or other?] OCS Texts [Re: Nathaniel Tapsak] #418293
06/09/18 08:51 AM
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