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Ukrainian autocephaly #418604
10/11/18 02:00 PM
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I just read a report that His All-Holiness and the Synod of the Ecumenical Patriarchate has recognized the Ukrainian Orthodox Church's independence from the Moscow Patriarchate in the past few days. He has recognized the leader of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church-Kievan Patriarchate as the canonical Orthodox Church on the territory of Ukraine.

Has anyone else seen this?

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The Ecumenical Patriarchate continues the procedure of granting autocephaly to the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, as stated in the decision made at the meeting of the Synod of the Ecumenical Patriarchate, published on the Patriarchate's website. Following extensive deliberations, the Holy Synod decreed to "renew the decision already made that the Ecumenical Patriarchate proceed to the granting of Autocephaly to the Church of Ukraine," the decision says. The Synod has also decreed to "reestablish, at this moment, the Stavropegion of the Ecumenical Patriarch in Kyiv, one of its many Stavropegia in Ukraine that existed there always." It is decreed to "accept and review the petitions of appeal of Filaret Denisenko, Makariy Maletych and their followers, who found themselves in schism not for dogmatic reasons, in accordance with the canonical prerogatives of the Patriarch of Constantinople to receive such petitions by hierarchs and other clergy from all of the Autocephalous Churches. Thus, the above-mentioned have been canonically reinstated to their hierarchical or priestly rank, and their faithful have been restored to communion with the Church." ...To revoke the legal binding of the Synodal Letter of the year 1686, issued for the circumstances of that time, which granted the right through oikonomia to the Patriarch of Moscow to ordain the Metropolitan of Kyiv, elected by the Clergy-Laity Assembly of his eparchy, who would commemorate the Ecumenical Patriarch as the First hierarch at any celebration, proclaiming and affirming his canonical dependence to the Mother Church of Constantinople. The Holy Synod also appeals to all sides involved that they "avoid appropriation of Churches, Monasteries and other properties, as well as every other act of violence and retaliation, so that the peace and love of Christ may prevail." If you see a spelling error on our site, select it and press Ctrl+Enter

Read more on UNIAN: https://www.unian.info/society/1029...to-church-of-ukraine-synod-decision.html


There is also a mention that this action is on the website of the Ecumenical Patriarchate.

Bob

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Re: Ukrainian autocephaly [Re: theophan] #418605
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Confirmed:

https://www.rferl.org/a/constantino...-ukrainian-orthodox-church/29538590.html


Ecumenical Patriarchate Agrees To Recognize Independence Of Ukrainian Church
Last Updated: October 11, 2018 20:27 GMT

Re: Ukrainian autocephaly [Re: theophan] #418606
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Christ is in our midst!!

As I followed this news, it seems that the Ecumenical Patriarchate has recognized two groups: the former "Kiev Patriarchate" and the "Autocephalous" group. So two bodies that were not recognized prior to this date have both become canonical.

Does that mean that they will find their way together to form one?

Bob

Re: Ukrainian autocephaly [Re: theophan] #418607
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According to Archbishop Daniel (one of the two EP exarchs) there is supposed to be a congress of the bishops of UAOC, KP, and any bishops of the UOC who want to be there. This body would formulate the structure of the new church and elect a primate, at which point the new church will receive the Tomos of autocephaly from the EP.

What does that make these bishops now? Is Makariy still metropolitan? Is Filaret still Patriarch? This is where it's rather murky and confusing.

I think both MP and EP have conducted themselves very poorly in this matter.

Re: Ukrainian autocephaly [Re: theophan] #418617
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This set of events pains me. To me, it is always cause for sorrow when brethren are at odds with each other.

Bob

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Dear Bob,

How have you been sir? FYI, the special Church Council of the unification of the Ukrainian Orthodox into one autocephalous Church will take place on December 15 - next week. This Sobor will be participated in by the hierarchs of the Kyivan Patriarchate, the Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church and ten hierarchs of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate (who signed the original petition to the EP to ask for the grant of autocephaly - led by Metropolitan Aleksandr (Drabenko)). There could also be more hierarchs who would move away from the MP - we shall see.

This will be a joyous occasion for millions of Ukrainian Orthodox and that around the world as they will have a unified and canonical autocephalous Orthodox Church for the first time that will be free of the Moscow Patriarchate. The real brethren will no longer be at odds with each other and will embrace one another in love and respect. The Moscow Patriarchate is not a brother. Quite the opposite in fact.

Cheers, Alex

Re: Ukrainian autocephaly [Re: theophan] #418676
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Alex - how wonderful to see you post again smile

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How have you been Anhelyna? Did you find the Lestovkas you mentioned way back when?

Alex

Re: Ukrainian autocephaly [Re: theophan] #418683
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