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Sts. Peter and Paul, Granville, NY #417325 08/21/17 07:25 PM
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Does anyone here know anything about this church? I grew up in South Dorset, VT, not so far away. We once went to a Paschal Liturgy there. I honestly can't remember anything as I was maybe 8 years old. My father was under the impression that it was a Russian Orthodox Church until he heard the Pope being commemorated. As I said, I can't remember a thing; plus in those days, I knew nothing in any Slavic language.
Some years later, about 1998, I was on my way to Vermont from Jordanville, NY. I stopped in to see the church. There was a Fr. Stockert there at the time. It seemed then that the parish was dying. Fr. Stockert said that there had been many Slovaks and Rusyns who had worked in the slate quarries. I wonder if anyone out there remembers this church and it's community.

Re: Sts. Peter and Paul, Granville, NY [Re: Fr. Al] #417326 08/21/17 09:01 PM
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From my quick google search, it appears to be a byzantine catholic church. No website or facebook page.

Re: Sts. Peter and Paul, Granville, NY [Re: Fr. Al] #417327 08/21/17 09:15 PM
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It IS a Byzantine Catholic Church. Fr. Stockert told me twenty years ago that membership was declining. But there must be at least some descendants of the members out there who have some information.

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I assume it's still up and running considering the Eparchy lists the church on their website.

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Yes, but probably serviced by visiting priest(s), just like a lot of our old OCA parishes here in Western PA. My dean serves two parishes. Also, a nearby Ukrainian Orthodox priest serves two parishes and he's 84!

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The website listed a parish priest but it's probably just an administrator. You could try emailing him.

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Father Al:

Father bless!!

Sts Peter and Paul in Granville lists an Administrator, Father Hospodar, who seems to have many duties in the Passaic eparchy. I can't seem to find his regular parish or how close it is to Granville. The parish website says NO WEEKLY LITURGICAL SERVICES SCHEDULED. I would assume that means no Sunday Divine Liturgy, too.

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Yes, that's what I would imagine. As I said, many of our OCA parishes in Western PA are in a similar situation. Some have liturgy every other Sunday, some one Sunday a month.
It's likely that the descendants of Sts. Peter and Paul founders have largely moved away. Maybe they go to Latin Rite parishes, if anywhere at all.

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Father Al:

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What's confusing is that the Catholic Directory--of all parishes and institutions in the United States--lists a "St Peter and Paul Church" in Granville, but on checking it one finds that it is a Latin parish. The only listing for the Ruthenian parish is on the Passaic eparchy website list of parishes.

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Father Hospodar is pastor of St Mary's in NYC. I am sure he does not have any services in Granville.

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I am aware of that. I don't believe enough people are left to justify services, sadly.
But there have to be some descendents of the founders out there. It may be a closed chapter in Carpatho-Rusyn America, but I would be interested in learning about the peoples who made up that church.
Did they consider themselves Slovaks, Russians, Rusyns , or what?
Mr. Prehoda was the man from whom my father bought slate and who told him about the church. Dad said that Mr. Prehoda spoke "pretty good Russian." I imagine if he had spoken Slovak, especially the Eastern variety, my father would not have understood.

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I've seen that site. In fact, I've visited the museum and become a member. Still, I have yet to hear from anyone directly associated with the parish. My guess is that the grandchildren and great-grandchildren have moved away or fallen away. Its similar here in Western PA; Orthodox, Greek Catholic, and Roman Catholic churches report similar experiences. An OCA parish in Dixonville is now a private home or apartments, I don't remember which. The parish closed, but the nearby Ukrainian Orthodox church is still functioning. A Byzantine Catholic church in Coal Run is now a private home, but one can clearly see that it used to be an Eastern church. After the congregation here in Black Lick moved into the new church building in 1980, the old church was torn down in 1982. We survive, but in much smaller numbers than in 1980.

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I know this is an old thread, but Granville caught my eye. My Irish Great Grandfather worked in the mines there and that is where my Grandmother grew up. I did not learn until much much later in life that one of her brothers married a Ukranian, and I suspect that was the parish that she could have been from. I am fuzzy on the details, because of generation time and that being a different branch of the family. I think at least one of their children was married at a Byzantine parish. As far as I know, no one closely related to me still lives in Granville, just like most of my relatives left Dolgeville. My Dad and all his brothers went on to have careers that they could not have locally. I grew up about 4-5 hours away.

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Father Al:

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There used to be an OCA parish in Ganister--near Williamsburg, PA--that was sold in the past couple years. As far as I know it had dwindled to just a couple members who now travel to Altoona, PA, for Divine Liturgy.

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