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Re: Eastern Catholics and the Book of Revelation #73850 01/31/02 02:05 PM
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I have a session in my Theo. 101 class at the Un of St. Francis. I also assign Scott Hahn's book for a reading report. I use the study of Revelation as a guide to liturgy in preparation for their mandatory visit to the Byzantine Church. Though Rev. barely made the canon in the East it nevertheless opens up the Eastern Liturgy for my students who are mostly Latin Catholic.

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Re: Eastern Catholics and the Book of Revelation #73851 01/31/02 02:37 PM
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Dan,

What from the Book of Revelation and/or Hahn's book aided in opening up the Eastern liturgy for your students? This would be interesting. Thank you.

Joe

Re: Eastern Catholics and the Book of Revelation #73852 01/31/02 02:46 PM
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Actually, several years before Dr. Hahn wrote his book I had reached similar conclusions. I've preached and spoken on the subject for years.

I usually limit my discussion to Revelation 4-8. In these chapters which are essentially repeated in seven cycles througout the Revelation we have a clear picture of worship.

I begin by drawing a rough sketch of the interior of a Church and ask what is seen first. The usual answer is either the altar or the crucifix. Not bad, eh?

It flows from there. The altar is the throne of God. The vision was on "The Lord's day" when John was "in the Spirit" i.e., he was praying or was in worship. The crystal fountain, as has been mentioned, is baptism. Water is the place where we are not only washed and made presentable but more importantly, a substance in which we die to ourselves.

Read the section as a guide to worship. I think you will see what I mean.

Scott Hahn's book is I assign, along with others, for reading reports. He tends to reinforce the lesson.

Dan Lauffer

Re: Eastern Catholics and the Book of Revelation #73853 01/31/02 05:52 PM
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Dan,

Most excellent to hear of your approach to the Apocalypse of John. Refreshing.

Joe

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Maybe I'm a nut case, but I just don't feel comfortable reading the exegesis of Western sources on scripture that has an influence on our Eastern understanding. Not that they're wrong --by any stretch of imagination -- but just the concern that this interpretation will propose understandings that are not in harmony with our stuff.

No offense to the Westerns; but, if we're going to be "Eastern", then we've got to do the "Eastern thing". And look to our own for both primary and secondary sources, as well as interpretation. And NOT use the Western sources, however easy they may be to read. Nor how 'contemporary' they are. (Where the hell are our contemporary Eastern commentators and interpreters?)

Blessings!

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