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What happened to the Chaldean liturgy? #420058 06/25/20 05:05 AM
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I've been looking at videos of liturgies from Chaldean Catholic parishes and seeing priests celebrating the liturgy facing the people and the abandonment of the altar curtain.

What happend to the reform? shocked

Re: What happened to the Chaldean liturgy? [Re: griego catolico] #420060 06/26/20 10:34 PM
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Good question. I can tell you that the Ethiopian Rite church in Washington DC seemed close to a Novus Ordo Mass, but that is the opinion of lay person.

Re: What happened to the Chaldean liturgy? [Re: griego catolico] #420064 06/28/20 08:54 PM
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Christ is in our midst!!

There was a discussion of the Chaldean Liturgy on this board some time ago. It seems that there had been a reform that returned it to its historical roots, following the instruction of Vatican II to the Eastern Churches. That reform was being used in the eparchy in CA. Then a new patriarch was elected. The Chaldean Synod and he did another revision. There was some back and forth about the CA eparchy not using the latest revision because it was a radical departure from what had just been so carefully researched and introduced. When the bishop of the CA eparchy retired, a new bishop was sent from the Middle East and the latest version was introduced.

I don't understand what the push is among Eastern Catholic bishops to imitate the Latin Church's liturgical praxis, but that seems to be their starting point.

The Chaldeans seem to have been moving toward a liturgical practice that would be similar to the Church of the East, but this latest move seems to have moved them far away from that.

This seems to be what I have seen in the posts and following other online sources.

Bob

Re: What happened to the Chaldean liturgy? [Re: theophan] #420065 06/28/20 09:28 PM
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This is my concern with remaining in the Catholic Eastern Churches, rather than transferring to its Orthodox sister church. It seems no matter what the Pope says, what history shows, what the current Synod states; a new Patriarch/Head and two or three supporters can undo it completely. One would think all the rhetoric about a strong Papacy would prevent this, but praxis shows the exact opposite.


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