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#77692 - 03/04/04 01:37 PM Hrmota  
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Can anyone tell me what "Hrmota" is, and when it is celebrated? We print offering envelopes for a Byzantine church in the area, and the had used a special offering envelope marked "Hrmota" this year on January 18. I am setting up the order for next year already, and don't know if the date should change...and also was curious as to what it is, exactly. Thanks in advance for your generous help.


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#77693 - 03/04/04 03:03 PM Re: Hrmota  
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I'm not sure, but I bet the word should actually be HRAMOTA and not hrmota.

Hramota means: 'award' or 'gift' or 'prize' or 'honorarium'

Perhaps it is an annual 'honorarium' which is given to the parish priest or 'gift' for the church.

I'm sure Alex knows smile


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#77694 - 03/04/04 04:19 PM Re: Hrmota  
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That would be the listing of deceased family members to be read during the All Souls Saturday Liturgies. The envelope from my parish includes lines on the back to add additional family members as needed. Since the first All Souls Saturday fluctuates with the date of Easter, the envelope date would most likely need to move as well so as to provide time for the pastor to make the necessary updates.

What follows is an explanation from Byzantines.net that includes yet another spelling of the word...

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The dyptichs were replaced by official lists of the deceased members of individual families issued by the pastor. These were called Hramoty, from the Greek: grammata , meaning a written letter or document. The list of the deceased members of a family made in booklet form was called a Porn janik, taken from the Old Slavonic: pomjanuti , meaning to remember, and was used at the services for the deceased.

The custom of announcing the names of the deceased during the liturgical services, as stated above, can be traced back to the first centuries of Christianity. Our ancestors as a part of our beautiful spiritual heritage transmitted this venerable custom to us. Every year, just before Meat-Fare Saturday, the families give the lists of their departed loved ones (Hramoty) to the pastor with the request that they be mentioned at the services held for the deceased on the All Souls Saturdays.

#77695 - 03/04/04 05:19 PM Re: Hrmota  
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My assumption is that people more often than not submit one list and not many, so you may want to change the spelling to HRAMOTA.

One list = Hramota
Many lists = Hramoty

Hritzko


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#77696 - 03/10/04 08:46 PM Re: Hrmota  
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Originally posted by Larry L:

What follows is an explanation from Byzantines.net that includes yet another spelling of the word...

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The list of the deceased members of a family made in booklet form was called a Porn janik, taken from the Old Slavonic: pomjanuti , meaning to remember, and was used at the services for the deceased.
Not to be picky...but pomjanuti does not give Porn janik but pomjannik. Obviously the rn should be m.


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