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#92137 - 06/20/03 12:58 PM Re: St. Jude
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Dear Knowledgeable Parties,

The club is a form of a primitive staff one carried when on pilgrimage.

One interpretation of the double snakes on an episcopal staff is that the two snakes represent the "evil we know and the evil we don't know."

The staff is the symbol of victory over both - people killed snakes that tried to bite them in their travels with staffs.

Many sacerdotal vestments in our Church are derived from Roman military wear and have a military significance that is spirituall reinterpreted.

Alex

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#92138 - 06/20/03 01:00 PM Re: St. Jude
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Dear Brian S:


Back then, you must have died laughing at your little brother and his wise observation!

(How's the Big-O weather?)


Amado

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#92139 - 06/20/03 02:41 PM Re: St. Jude
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O Ye Veritable Foutains of Knowledge,

And, so, now I understand. The club is simultaneously a sign of his authority as an apostle and his travells as an evangelist! This is why St Jude Thaddeus is asked to intercede on behalf of travellers.

Of course, he could still use it to keep the Bride of Christ in line, or any rambunctious little boy in Church, if absolutely necessary. smile

Fear of the club is the beginning of wisdom?

In Christ,
Andrew

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#92140 - 06/20/03 02:55 PM Re: St. Jude
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Registered: 11/19/02
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Info for you:

National Shrine of St. Jude/St. Jude League
Claretian Missionaries

http://www.stjudeleague.org




Peace,

BradM

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#92141 - 06/20/03 03:47 PM Re: St. Jude
Dmitri Rostovski Offline
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Slava Jesu Kristu,

I was told that the club represents his martyrdom. He was supposedly killed by an angry pagan mob carrying clubs. He was bludgeoned to dealth.

Dmitri

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#92142 - 06/20/03 07:43 PM Re: St. Jude
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I grew up about 8 city blocks from the St. Jude Shrine in Chicago.The League was synonymous with the Chicago Police Dept. when I was growing up. Maybe that has something to do with the club. wink

Nicky's Baba

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#92143 - 06/23/03 01:22 PM Re: St. Jude
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Dear Friends,

I see that anyone wishing to write an Akathist to this saint has his work cut out for him!

Dear Brad - have a look see on the Byzantine Faith and Worship threads - I've posted a link to an English language Akathist to King David of Israel you might want to have a look at.

Alex

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