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#217395 - 12/19/06 05:51 PM
Re: David Petras: Time For The Lord To Act: A Catechetical Commen
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lm
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I don't think it's a problem because in fact it is a request of those then present and then praying that they pray "in peace."
In the Creed, however, the reference to salvation of men is without respect to time, place, rank, position, sex, age etc.
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#217397 - 12/19/06 05:57 PM
Re: David Petras: Time For The Lord To Act: A Catechetical Commen
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lm
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Not to mention the omission of the verses of the antiphons, the litanies between the antiphons, and various other litanies.
No one has ever given an explanation of the _need_ for the changes. We are told we must follow, because bishops are mandating this change, and we should be obedient. But we are never told why they are mandating the changes. Questions get silence as a response. It is clericalism in the extreme.
I had hoped Fr. David's book would provide these reasons, but from what I have read here, it does not.
Perhaps there is no rational account. So we may be asking for the impossible. Or perhaps we are too Western in our point of view in demanding "a faith seeking understanding."
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#217496 - 12/20/06 10:25 PM
Re: David Petras: Time For The Lord To Act: A Catechetical Commen
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John Damascene
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Fr. Petras' book again touches on liturgical change in closing his section on Antiphons on page 60:
"Whenever a modification is made in the Liturgy, not everyone will agree with it, for our prayer is too close to the center of our faith and to our relationship with God. What is more important, though, is that our Liturgy is the act of a community under the leadership of our bishops. We are not seeking our own will, but to acknowledge the presence of God together in the Body of Christ that is the Church."
The bishops are seeking their own will. They reject the community of all of the Greek Catholic / Orthodox bishops and go their own way.
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#246453 - 07/25/07 02:18 PM
Re: David Petras: Time For The Lord To Act: A Catechetical Commentary On The DL
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Theologos
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I was also given this book by a friend and am very glad I saved the $10.
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