What I and others here are stating is that we want the Byzantine Liturgy, celebrated correctly and with texts and music that are both correct and respect what we have memorized after praying them for 40 years. We hold up as examples equally both our Ruthenian recension liturgical books and the praxis of our own parishes that had full and vibrant liturgical lives and parishes from both the Orthodox and other Greek Catholic Churches (which shows that the Byzantine Liturgy works!). Many of us have spent much of our adult lives working towards this. We now find that we are denied a correct celebration of the Divine Liturgy. So, so many of us have been spiritually hurt for no reason whatsoever. One expects to suffer greatly for Christ. One does not expect one's Church to be the author of this great suffering.

Please consider the discussions here in light of the following:


The way forward is for the bishops to rescind the Revised Divine Liturgy and to promulgate the Ruthenian Divine Liturgy, with texts and music that respect what has been memorized over lifetimes of praying it. Establish a “minimum” (i.e., the shortest form allowed) and slowly raise the parish celebration over a decade by education, example, and encouragement. I continue to fail to understand the opposition by some (especially our bishops) to our own Liturgy.

I believe there were more than two or three, but I was one of those who certainly lost their peace when the reformed Liturgy was forced onto the Church. I had to leave(to be fair there were doctrinal reasons also).

But I was bitter and I could not attend services in that state of mind. So you were correct. I have found great peace in the Holy Orthodox Church.

Recluse,

They rest of us who remain shall have to stand steadfast in defense of true Byzantine Orthodoxy.

which shows that the Byzantine Liturgy works!

The Eparchy of Van Nuys website lists 19 parishes. 3 have Vespers, 1 has Vesperal Liturgy.

St. Stephen Pro-cathedral, Phoenix, AZ: Vesperal Liturgy
St. Thomas, Gilbert, AZ: Vespers
Holy Angels, San Diego, CA: Vespers
Our Lady of Pepetual Help, Albuquerque, NM: Vespers and Matins

The list is clearly incomplete. St. Gabriel has weekly Vesperal Liturgy on Saturday, and Matins on first and third Sundays.

hawk

We can also add this parish:

http://www.stjohnchrysostom.org/

Daily Matins and Vespers, Great Canon of St. Andrew, Presanctified Liturgy, Akathists, etc.

Rosary?

Rosary?

And if they did?