How much Slavonic was used during Resurrection Services?

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#287591 - 04/29/08 07:23 AM Re: How much Slavonic was used during Resurrection Services? [Re: Job]
Ung-Certez Ung-Certez Member Registered: 02/17/02 Posts: 2042 Loc: Pittsburgh, PA	Originally Posted By: Job We did nothing more than utilize Church Slavonic for "mixing up Christ is Risen" (Did throw in one Hungarian as well $\:\)$ ) and took part of one of the Odes at Resurrection Matins in Church-Slavonic as well... Job Job, what parish do you attend now? X.B.! B.B.! Ung
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#287592 - 04/29/08 07:27 AM Re: How much Slavonic was used during Resurrection Services? [Re: Mykhayl]
Alice Alice Moderator Member Registered: 01/12/03 Posts: 6212 Loc: New York	Originally Posted By: Mykhayl X. B! C, I, X! “I’m not quite sure who’s doing what in this post. What I DO understand is that the Slavs…” Welcome to our world Dr. John. An old wife’s tale state the Romans embrace the Church out of duty to the law, the Greeks due to their respect of philosophy, and the Slave because the love it. 'Slave', or 'Slav'???
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#287593 - 04/29/08 07:32 AM Re: How much Slavonic was used during Resurrection Services? [Re: Alice]
Ung-Certez Ung-Certez Member Registered: 02/17/02 Posts: 2042 Loc: Pittsburgh, PA	... well the English word for "Slave" does have it's root in the word "Slav". Ung
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#287595 - 04/29/08 09:04 AM Re: How much Slavonic was used during Resurrection Services? [Re: Alice]
Mykhayl Mykhayl Member Registered: 02/16/08 Posts: 272 Loc: Pgh, PA USA	X. B! Sorry I am a slave to this automatic spell check which only works when you don't want it to and I can't figure out how to eliminate it. Slav gave us slave in English but in "our way" it gave "slava", that is glory which gives our form for orthodox or in "our way" "true praise". Father I am so glad Christ rose in Dublin and the priest did not collapse. So was it you that sang "Plotee"? Usually I am only impressed off of a good CD, the last really good in person soloist I heard sing it was 20 years ago, today he is bishop of Chicago. This year my pastor did such a nice job with the Exapostilarion I looked upon him only as a priest of God for the rest of Matins. Music can tame the beast in us. Then he decided to improve the sermon of Saint John. Vanity goes before the fall... in all of us.
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#287597 - 04/29/08 09:21 AM Re: How much Slavonic was used during Resurrection Services? [Re: Mykhayl]
Mykhayl Mykhayl Member Registered: 02/16/08 Posts: 272 Loc: Pgh, PA USA	P. S . I usually cut and past so its my program not the Forum's Mykhayl
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#287598 - 04/29/08 09:48 AM Re: How much Slavonic was used during Resurrection Services? [Re: Mykhayl]
AMM AMM Member Registered: 04/04/05 Posts: 2504 Loc: PA	During Resurrection matins all of our hymns were either done in English and Slavonic or only in Slavonic.
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#287619 - 04/29/08 03:47 PM Re: How much Slavonic was used during Resurrection Services? [Re: AMM]
Mykhayl Mykhayl Member Registered: 02/16/08 Posts: 272 Loc: Pgh, PA USA	X. B! AMM Very nice. Which one of our half dozen churches in Pennsylvania did you attend?
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#287623 - 04/29/08 04:29 PM Re: How much Slavonic was used during Resurrection Services? [Re: Ung-Certez]
Job Job Cantor Member Registered: 11/01/05 Posts: 567 Loc: Connecticut	Originally Posted By: Ung-Certez Originally Posted By: Job We did nothing more than utilize Church Slavonic for "mixing up Christ is Risen" (Did throw in one Hungarian as well $\:\)$ ) and took part of one of the Odes at Resurrection Matins in Church-Slavonic as well... Job Job, what parish do you attend now? X.B.! B.B.! Ung I am the cantor at St. John the Baptist Orthodox Church in Stratford, CT (Silver Lane) which is under the omophor of Metropolitan Nicholas (ACROD) St. John the Baptist Orthodox Church
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#287634 - 04/29/08 08:36 PM Re: How much Slavonic was used during Resurrection Services? [Re: Mykhayl]
AMM AMM Member Registered: 04/04/05 Posts: 2504 Loc: PA	Originally Posted By: Mykhayl X. B! AMM Very nice. Which one of our half dozen churches in Pennsylvania did you attend? My church is Carpatho-Russian.
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#287650 - 04/29/08 11:12 PM Re: How much Slavonic was used during Resurrection Services? [Re: AMM]
AMM AMM Member Registered: 04/04/05 Posts: 2504 Loc: PA	and Voistinu voskrese!
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#287659 - 04/30/08 06:26 AM Re: How much Slavonic was used during Resurrection Services? [Re: AMM]
Ung-Certez Ung-Certez Member Registered: 02/17/02 Posts: 2042 Loc: Pittsburgh, PA	Originally Posted By: AMM Originally Posted By: Mykhayl X. B! AMM Very nice. Which one of our half dozen churches in Pennsylvania did you attend? My church is Carpatho-Russian. Would that be St. Nicholas ACROD in Homestead PA? Christos Voskrese! Voistinnu Voskrese! Ung
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#287669 - 04/30/08 09:32 AM Re: How much Slavonic was used during Resurrection Services? [Re: Ung-Certez]
domilsean domilsean Orthodox domilsean Member Registered: 12/22/04 Posts: 522 Loc: Pittsburgh	We did a fair amount of Slavonic at St. Nicholas, Homestead (I'm in the choir there). Our cantor Reader Andrew Talorovich is quite adept in Slavonic and really belted out hymns and the tropar, though I think we did the kondak chorally... I don't remember if it was english or slavonic though. we did do "jelicy" in slavonic, for sure, and alternated at Resurrection matins between "Christ is risen from the dead" and "Christos voskrese is mertvych". We also did "The Angel cried" in slavonic. Even Father, who doesn't use so much Slavonic, was having a good time singing Slavonic! It was great!
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#287688 - 04/30/08 10:56 AM Re: How much Slavonic was used during Resurrection Services? [Re: Ung-Certez]
AMM AMM Member Registered: 04/04/05 Posts: 2504 Loc: PA	Originally Posted By: Ung-Certez Originally Posted By: AMM Originally Posted By: Mykhayl X. B! AMM Very nice. Which one of our half dozen churches in Pennsylvania did you attend? My church is Carpatho-Russian. Would that be St. Nicholas ACROD in Homestead PA? Christos Voskrese! Voistinnu Voskrese! Ung B>B> Nope, other side of the Carpatheghenies. I'm in Eagle country. Our priest is from the Burgh though. Edited by AMM (04/30/08 10:57 AM)
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#288062 - 05/05/08 09:45 AM Re: How much Slavonic was used during Resurrection Services? [Re: tjm199]
Orthodox Pyrohy Orthodox Pyrohy Forum Pyrohy Expert Member Registered: 01/17/05 Posts: 1238 Loc: The badlands of PA	In our services not much, During Paschal Matins I used Slavonic a few places, during Holy Friday I used Slavonic for the tropar as we processed around the church. Liturgy was standard, Svaty Boze, Ize, Let our mouths be filled, Dostonjo Jest, Holy Holy... but seriously I'm glad 98% of it was done in English. The prayers are so meaningful and beautiful that understanding them is essential. My cousin passed over a month ago and all the funeral services were chanted in English (except Vichnaya Pamyat). With so many of our family having left Eastern Christianity it was nice for them to be able to attend the funeral and understand and learn, remember our services teach our faith. If it would have been in Slavonic no one would have understood or learned what the prayers were teaching us.
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#288110 - 05/06/08 12:30 AM Re: How much Slavonic was used during Resurrection Services? [Re: Orthodox Pyrohy]
Dr John Dr John Member Registered: 11/04/01 Posts: 1369 Loc: Falls Church, Virginia	My condolences on the passing of your cousin. Although we know that the servant of God has passed on to 'home', it is still nonetheless an occasion for sorrow and loss of someone who is loved and cherished. I hope that the committal and the services were able to convey to the family the sense of love and caring that the Church has for all who leave this life. I know that it is hard to cantor for a passing, and especially so when it is a member of the family and when we are praying for that family member. But it is the reality, and we approach it with faith. Your Paschal experience seems to mirror that of many - a mixture of English and Slavonic (and other languages, as appropriate). This is a good thing. And your ability to use your musical and language talents is certainly a gift from God for you to use with your community. Christos Voskrese! Dr John
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