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#286379 - 04/15/08 04:26 PM the future of the Eastern Church in the U.S.
harmon3110 Offline
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Registered: 08/03/04
Posts: 3075
Loc: Ohio, USA
Let's talk about the future of the Eastern Church in the U.S.

(That was happening at another thread, but it was deemed to be off-topic.)

I'll start:

Personally, I think that Eastern Christians in the U.S. like having their Church divided among several different jurisdictions (all prayers to the contrary aside). It gives people different denominations to join or play off against each other. It prevents any one set of clergy from getting too pwerful. It gives people a mechanism for keeping particular ethnic traditions or experiments going. And, I think some clergy like it because it gives more opportunities to become a priest or a bishop.

Now, shall we try to work to all be one organization (and how?).

Or shall we at least try to co-ordinate resources for charity (like SCOBA?).

Or shall we just say hi to each other and each other's annual festivals (pirogi and baklava, or deer meat and wonder bread?).

Your turn . . .

-- John

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#286385 - 04/15/08 05:20 PM Re: the future of the Eastern Church in the U.S. [Re: harmon3110]
Tom Lyman Offline
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Registered: 06/12/06
Posts: 44
Loc: Colorado, USA
As a Latin, I have very optimistic aspirations for the Eastern Catholic Church in the US, but I honestly don't know what to expect seeing as there is such a negative view toward God's Churches in modern society. Hopefully by the Grace of God, we can all continue in this tough time as the Churches of God on Earth....apologies for the cynicism, but I just call it how I see it.
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#286400 - 04/15/08 07:01 PM Re: the future of the Eastern Church in the U.S. [Re: Tom Lyman]
Edmac Offline
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Registered: 10/21/07
Posts: 260
Loc: Brooklyn, NY
This is(need I say?)a very difficult topic. Ethnicity is not
unimportant, although it presents difficulties. Religion and
ethnicity are inextrincably linked for many people, and under-
standibly so. This is not the case with my own parish, but we
are probably exceptional.

Our numerous jurisdictions are just a result of the histories
of our various Churches in the Old World. We cannot pretend that
this is not the case. Moreover, many of our Churches serve
recent immigrants who cannot be expected to turn into culturally,
lingustically and religiously "integrated" Americans either overnight or for a generation or two.

Despite their originally common ancestry, Ruthenians are not
Ukrainians, nor Slovaks, nor Hungarians, nor Romanians, nor Russians,
and vice versa all around, and none of these are
Melkites or Copts or Assyrians or Malankarese or whatever.

The really big problem is how to prevent the children or grand-
children of these folks from ending up Latins, which it is
awfully easier (and more "American") for them to be, especially
as we can expect very large numbers of those offspring to end up
marrying Latin Catholics.

As the Latin-rite Church in this country and in much of the world
abounds in bishops, priests, religious and most of all laity who are apostate
or very close to it (and many of them having no clue that they are) this is
no small matter. The Latin Church DESPARATELY needs the
witness of the Eastern Churches, small as that witness may be.

My answer then must be not to worry about matters of church
organization, but to stick close to Christ according to the
our several traditons and to leave the rest to God.

Edmac

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