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#287021 - 04/21/08 04:52 PM Re: Pope in the U.S. and the Orthodox [Re: Kahless]
Serge Keleher Offline
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Thanks for the info on St. Joseph's in Yorkville. As it turns out, I attended a wedding there about 50 years ago. It was a nice Church.

Fr. Serge

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#287053 - 04/21/08 10:23 PM Re: Pope in the U.S. and the Orthodox [Re: Edmac]
Ray Kaliss Offline
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 Originally Posted By: Edmac
Why should any explanation be required?


'required' ??

Relax - you are among friends.

-ray

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#287058 - 04/21/08 11:07 PM Re: Pope in the U.S. and the Orthodox [Re: Serge Keleher]
Elizabeth Maria Offline
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 Originally Posted By: Serge Keleher
Thanks for the info on St. Joseph's in Yorkville. As it turns out, I attended a wedding there about 50 years ago. It was a nice Church.

Fr. Serge


It WAS a nice church?

\:\)

Oh, the ambiguities of English.

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#287073 - 04/22/08 05:57 AM Re: Pope in the U.S. and the Orthodox [Re: Elizabeth Maria]
Serge Keleher Offline
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Yes, it was a nice church. I don't think I've been in it since the wedding all those years ago, so I haven't a notion what the interior looks like at the moment.

Fr. Serge

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#287107 - 04/22/08 12:29 PM Re: Pope in the U.S. and the Orthodox [Re: Serge Keleher]
Amadeus Offline
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As explained by Bishop Sullivan, auxiliary of the Archdiocese of New York, St. Joseph's parish originally catered to German immigrants but, presently, it is now a multi-ethnic parish.

Toggle down to the 10th video in the list, "Ecumenical Service," to catch some glimpses of the Church's interior:

http://www.uspapalvisit.org/video_audio.htm

Amado

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#287117 - 04/22/08 01:17 PM Re: Pope in the U.S. and the Orthodox [Re: Amadeus]
Amadeus Offline
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During the introduction of the representatives of Christian Churches and ecclesial communities in attendance, the first called was Archbishop Demetrios of the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America followed by the 2 represntatives of the Armenian Orthodox Church in the U.S.

Then came the introduction of the various Protestant denominations: Lutheran, Methodist, Episcopal, Baptist, Evangelical, Pentecostal, etc.

I did not see nor hear Metropolitan Herman of the OCA being introduced or any of his legates.

Did you?

Amado

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#287120 - 04/22/08 01:49 PM Re: Pope in the U.S. and the Orthodox [Re: Amadeus]
Etnick Offline
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Registered: 11/12/02
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 Originally Posted By: Amadeus
During the introduction of the representatives of Christian Churches and ecclesial communities in attendance, the first called was Archbishop Demetrios of the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America followed by the 2 represntatives of the Armenian Orthodox Church in the U.S.

Then came the introduction of the various Protestant denominations: Lutheran, Methodist, Episcopal, Baptist, Evangelical, Pentecostal, etc.

I did not see nor hear Metropolitan Herman of the OCA being introduced or any of his legates.

Did you?

Amado


You're right. Metropolitan Herman was in attendance, but was not introduced to the Pope. I thought this was strange, considering he was seated right up front.

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#287140 - 04/22/08 08:21 PM Re: Pope in the U.S. and the Orthodox [Re: Amadeus]
Alice Moderator Offline
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 Originally Posted By: Amadeus
As explained by Bishop Sullivan, auxiliary of the Archdiocese of New York, St. Joseph's parish originally catered to German immigrants but, presently, it is now a multi-ethnic parish.

Toggle down to the 10th video in the list, "Ecumenical Service," to catch some glimpses of the Church's interior:

http://www.uspapalvisit.org/video_audio.htm

Amado



Thanks for this site, Amado...I had missed so many of the 'live' moments of the Pope's visit, and now I can see them!

Alice

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#287142 - 04/22/08 10:02 PM Re: Pope in the U.S. and the Orthodox [Re: Amadeus]
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 Originally Posted By: Amadeus
During the introduction of the representatives of Christian Churches and ecclesial communities in attendance, the first called was Archbishop Demetrios of the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America followed by the 2 represntatives of the Armenian Orthodox Church in the U.S.

Then came the introduction of the various Protestant denominations: Lutheran, Methodist, Episcopal, Baptist, Evangelical, Pentecostal, etc.

I did not see nor hear Metropolitan Herman of the OCA being introduced or any of his legates.

Did you?

Amado


I was confused for a moment when they introduced a second Armenian bishop; but then they said that he (Archbishop Vicken Aykazian, I guess it was?) is president of the NCC. I guess that's why.

I guess the basic concept of the ordering was: EO, OO, NCC, then the various Protestant groups.

The other interesting thing I noticed was that the Lutheran bishop was at the end of the Protestants representatives (right after the Pentecostals, as I recall), and he was from the Missouri Synod, not the ELCA.

Blessings,
Peter.


Edited by Peter_B (04/22/08 10:03 PM)

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#287158 - 04/23/08 09:09 AM Re: Pope in the U.S. and the Orthodox [Re: Peter_B]
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The last representative was the Episcopal bishop of NY. I think we know why, no need to rehash the reasons.
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[Glory be to the Father, Son, and † Holy Spirit. Amen.]

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#287159 - 04/23/08 10:19 AM Re: Pope in the U.S. and the Orthodox [Re: Michael_Thoma]
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We do?

 Originally Posted By: Michael_Thoma
The last representative was the Episcopal bishop of NY. I think we know why, no need to rehash the reasons.

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#287164 - 04/23/08 10:43 AM Re: Pope in the U.S. and the Orthodox [Re: Peter_B]
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 Originally Posted By: Peter_B

The other interesting thing I noticed was that the Lutheran bishop was at the end of the Protestants representatives (right after the Pentecostals, as I recall), and he was from the Missouri Synod, not the ELCA.

Blessings,
Peter.


Peter, I am not 100% sure, but I believe that the MSLC does NOT use episcopal governance structures and as such do not have men titled "bishop"... Maybe he was ELCA? Maybe it was a snag in his introduction?

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#287166 - 04/23/08 11:12 AM Re: Pope in the U.S. and the Orthodox [Re: A Simple Sinner]
Amadeus Offline
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The ELCA's representative was the first to be introduced among the Protestants. The representative of the LCMS was introduced later.

Amado

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#287167 - 04/23/08 11:18 AM Re: Pope in the U.S. and the Orthodox [Re: Amadeus]
Amadeus Offline
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Abp. Demetrios, the Primate of the GOA, bowed to the Pope while the Armenian Archbishop first called (or was it the second Armenian bishop?) kissed the ring of the Pope.

Among the Protestants, the representative of the Methodists also kissed the Pope's ring!

Strange?

Amado

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#287171 - 04/23/08 11:29 AM Re: Pope in the U.S. and the Orthodox [Re: Amadeus]
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Registered: 02/03/02
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Maybe a new wind is blowing, Amado.
Stephanos I

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