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Christ is in our midst!!

John Steve,

Be open to listen, offer no advice unless asked (and then be very careful), and simply put this in the Lord's Hands.

Christ is in our midst!!

John Steve,

See my previous post.

Christ is in our midst!!

IMHO, the best way to enrich one's understanding of Byzantine prayer is to buy a prayerbook and begin to use it. Byzantine prayer opens the door to theology because it begins with the notion that when we pray, we pray our theology.

That is the path I took in 1970. I have never looked back. All the other books become understandable once you have immersed yourself in prayer.

Can you recommend a balanced book on the Council of Florence, especially regarding its stance on purgatory and St. Mark of Ephesus's opposition?

Christ is in our midst!!

OTOH, my late mother took five doses of the vaccine and still developed COVID twice. She had no side effects. But, as my wife often said, "your mother is one tough cookie."

What more can you tell me about the history and efforts to save St. John's Russian Orthodox Church in Sheppton, PA, and do you know where I might find any remaining records or photographs of the church?

Christ is in our midst!!

The "inclusive language" argument was lost in the Latin Church long ago. We now have our third liturgical edition and some parts are difficult to read aloud. The first steps were for "inclusive language" and then trying to find common texts with our Protestant brethren. Then Pope St John Paul 2 issued translation norms to bring English editions back closer to the Latin. Now we've got a lexicographical mess. We've also had our translation of the Bible done over to conform to the translation directives so as one priest said "we have translation du jour."

This tracks with what I am realizing. Thank you!

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John Steve,

We are not talking about "interfaith" dialogue, but "interreligious" dialogue. We have to remember that the former relates to our conversations with others who profess Christ but who we are not in communion with; the latter is a dialogue with those who do not recognize the unique Person of Christ and what He has done for the human race.

Welcome MarineVet to this forum, I am also new to this forum and I hope that members of this forum will help us when we get stuck anywhere in this forum.

Wear a black or white Oxford shirt and black pants. Problem solved.

I read the Kindle version about 3 years ago, and got a hard copy of it last year, so I wonder if that's the updated one?

I think Fr. Rose had a lot of genuine warnings in that book, if not prophecies. When I first read it, I thought the section on UFOs went on too long, but after last year's "aliens were here" news cycle, I think he had a point.

Of course, I don't agree with a lot of his thoughts on the Catholic Church, and to be fair, he calls out a lot of Orthodox prelates in the book, too. But overall, I think it's probably the most relevant book discussing the coming dangers of secular society that he foresaw in the 1970s.

Reach out to the Dayton community. They are looking to start (if they have not already) in Cincinnati. This is a very recent development, so I am not sure what the status is.

Whoever they are, they have a fascinating list of Saints - including the Sheptytsky brothers!

Venerable Andrew Sheptytsky was very interested in the Old Rite and kept an Old Rite chapel near his residence. Blessed Leonid Fyodorov was appointed by him to minister to Old Rite Uniates in the Russian empire and he even received a hand-written letter from Tsar St Nicholas II thanking him and his community for their prayers for his son . . .

The few Old Rite Uniates there are have always venerated Andrew Sheptytsky as well as their own Old Rite Uniate hieromartyr (whose name escapes me) who took his entire parish and placed themselves under the omophorio of Blessed Andrew.

Alex

I know, that's tough. My mom lived with us, and even after a year and a half I still miss talking to her.

Life's journey marches on.

Be well 🙏
Alice

Dear Alex,

Keep the faith.

Prayers🙏
Alice

Christ is in our midst!!

Greek275Girl,

Katherine, welcome to the forum.

Bob
Moderator

Thank you for sharing!

The Unicorn in the Sanctuary: The Impact of the New Age on the Catholic Church Paperback – March 1, 1992
by Randy England

Shows how "New Age" principles have infiltrated the Catholic Church; being a combination of humanism; paganism; self-deification; Satanism and witchcraft; a far more dangerous movement than it appears! This is the first full-length study of the impact of the New Age Movement on Catholicism. Clear and down to earth. Tells what it is; what is wrong with it; where it came from and what to do about it. Very revealing! 176 pgs; PB

The synopsis is from the Amazon website where this book is marketed. I bought this in 1992 and spent a Lent with it. It's an earlier warning of the pagan practices being adopted by many in the Church in the United States.

Orthodox Catholic, knowing how Russia has historically treated Greek Catholics, and knowing people that actually live in Ukraine, I have NO DOUBT they were telling the truth. Russia has pretty extreme censorship, and no religious freedom. You can't even use your VPN or criticize the government. It is, for all intents and purposes, still stuck in the USSR. Russia had to lie about a country with a Jewish president, being full of Nazis, to justify a war.
That's not Christian, that's the work of Satan, yet I hear people constantly tell me how Russia is a conservative, Christian country. It gets annoying, for those of us that have been paying attention since the theft of Crimea in 2014.

Thank you very much, Orthodox Catholic, for explaining this. I think there's a lot of misunderstanding, especially from westerners, about what's really going on. Also, I think a lot of people are confused, because they keep saying "The Orthodox Church is banned in Ukraine" (I highly doubt they banned the largest religious group in Ukraine). I really wish people would do more research on this. (Also, it's important to note that Russia doesn't exactly have religious freedom). Anyway, I think people need to learn the difference between the UOC-MP and the Orthodox Church of Ukraine.

Yes, when it comes to the UGCC here, I've had to recommend to some to seek spiritual homes elsewhere.

It is that cultural identity thingy that gets in the way.

There is always the Russian Orthodox church you know - it prefers to stay clear of narrow thinking . . .

A beautiful icon!!!!

I'm sorry I have been out of the loop for so long to have missed this fascinating thread!

Prayers for a common Easter date beginning, hopefully, after next year. Hopefully too - a common Nicene Creed in its original text (I won't use the "F" word).

Certainly, Constantinople or at least the Ecumenical patriarch (Many years!) believes the time has come to proclaim formal Communion between the Churches. Symbols are important as are symbolic gestures so if these take place next year - let's just keep our fingers crossed shall we?

Perhaps Rome could also formally proclaim Sts Gregory Palamas and Photios the Great as Doctors of the universal Church . . .that would be good too!