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Dear Steven,

How interesting - and typical of our people!

The "Peter Mohyla" outlook. Now that really is an interesting phrase!

I take it to mean, as you are using it, that this refers to Easternization in our Church?

As you know, Mohyla was regarded more as a Westernizer in his time, the master-mind behind the Kyivan Baroque period.

He even included a reference to purgatory in his original creed - that was later expunged by the Eastern Patriarchs.

There is also a reference to the Rosary in his Creed when he explains the Eastern "Hail Mary" and talks about the custom to say it "many times each day."

His ultimate goal, as Diak said, was to try and stem the tide of Orthodox conversions to RCism in his day.

His belief in sending Orthodox students to study in Paris et alia resulted in them bringing home with them the devotion to the Immaculate Conception and other practices - not that there's anything wrong with them - as you say, when done in private.

I surmise that the figure of St Peter Mohyla today represents a return "ad fontes" to Eastern spirituality for our Church.

That is fine. It is just that his name would not have necessarily evoked that image in his time.

But how fascinating!

Alex

Dear Alex,

You are right. That is what was implied Big Guy.

An Orthodox Catholic center.

The true middle of balancing our faith with the outside world both Orthodox and Latin.

Yes, I did know that the Eastern Churches (as well as the Western Church) view Christ as the Head of the Church. But I also understood it that the Eastern Churches understood that the Pope is head of the Church Militant/Church Visible. Christ as Head and Pope as head are not mutually exclusive, I don't believe. I have never heard a Latin Catholic deny that Christ is Head of the Church, but I have never heard a (faithful) Latin Catholic deny that the Pope is Head of the Catholic Church.

Yes, indeed. That is perhaps why my favorite papal title is "Servant of the servants of God."

ChristTeen287

I stand corrected (I rely too much on memory): the Latin Archbishop of L'viv and Primate of Ukraine is Cardinal Marian Jaworski and *not* Cardinal Macharski!

These underground or "Catacomb" Orthodox Christian believers you mention are to the Orthodox like the SSPX is to the Catholics, i.e., for the most part, schismatics, but *not* necessarily heretics by any means.

Whether the title "Autonomous" is included in the official title of the Orthodox Church of Ukraine-Moscow Patriarchate-is irrelevant, for that is what she is, an autonomous Orthodox Church like the Orthodox Church of Japan-Moscow Patriarchate, or the Orthodox Church of Finland-Ecumenical Patriarchate.