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I'm sorry. Just a little bantering--I guess I was carried away by all the good feeling around here these days. biggrin

It's hard on the Internet to read someone's tone of voice.

I will delete the post.

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Originally posted by Orthodox Catholic:
I wrote my Akathist to Our Lady of Mt. Carmel with you in mind as well.

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Alex,

Is that pronounced carmel or caramel?

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Dear Cantor Joseph,

It depends if you are talking about wine or candy.

See, I can be like you too! smile

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Dear Latin Trad,

No problem, Big Guy!

Rusyns have thick skins. I sometimes have to repeat things to Cantor Joe twice you know . . . wink

He's pretending he's never heard of Mt Carmel! smile

Delatinizing is one thing. Pretending one never was Latinized is another! smile

(My use of graemlins allows me to get a few deserved shots in without hopefully offending too, too much!)

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Alex,

I know about Mt. Carmel. We celebrate the Feast of St. Elias too. wink

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Alex writes:

[I told him "God will heal the chasm between us in HIS way, not in ours."]

I agree. Though we would probably disagree on the methods he will use and the critera he will insist upon.

Latin Tradition writes:

[they will be surprised to find that Constantinople is no longer Orthodox-in-communion-with-Rome (as it was when they entered the wall, thanks to Constantine XI Palaelogos).]

Beg to differ since the 'Council of Florence' was repudiated by the people and the Orthodox clergy as soon as it was announced in 1439 and certainly by the time its emmissaries arrived in 'New Rome'. So when Constantinople fell in 1453 the union was already a lost cause and Constantinople had already regained its 'Orthodoxy' which it lost when it turned its back on under pressure in 1439 -

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[33] But the triumph of Orthodoxy was accomplished only after the death of St. Mark. The successor of Emperor John, his brother Constantine, openly announced his desire to preserve Orthodoxy in its purity. [34] Not long before the Fall of Constantinople a Council was convoked at which the Union and its promoters were triumphantly condemned and the Union itself overthrown, and the memory of St. Mark honored by all.

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So those Monks and priests were very well aware of the fact that the union had been repudiated and Holy Orthodoxy had been preserved when they entered the walls with the Holy Sacraments!

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