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What is the position of Theodoret of Cyrus in the Churches Catholic and Orthodox? I know some of his writings were condemned at the fifth ecumenical council, but this was a hundred years after he died and he was in good standing at his death.
Justinian seemed to manipulate many of the bishops at that council to get his way and try to bring the Monophysites back. Is everything an ecumenical council pronounces infallible, even though history is clear that the heavy hand of Justinian influenced the participants in this one? I know some bishops in the West didn't accept the decrees and a schism lasted in some parts of Italy and current day Yugoslavia for almost two hundred years.
Getting back to my primary question, is Theodoret accepted today by the Churches as orthodox and has he ever been glorified, canonized, or beatified? Thank you.
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Does no one want to explore the questions I raised in my post? I know it is a bit loaded as it concerns the total validity of an ecumenical council. I have read on this council and it seems the more and more I read that Justinian was the architect of many of the decisions. Some of the results of the fifth ecumenical council seem to have
been procured through fear and intimidation. I know this is the charge some Orthodox level against the Council of Florence. Well, if anything I see it more evident at Constantinople II. Justinian played a far greater role in this council than the emperors did in the other six accepted by Orthodox and Catholics. I hope someone will be willing to discuss this.
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Joseph
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Spidey,
I'd be happy to enter the fray, if I had a clue who Theodoret was & what he said/wrote/stood for. I suspect that there are many more folks on this board who are in the same boat. Not trying to deliberately ignore you or your question, just don't have anything meaningful to contribute.
Sorry!
Sharon
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Sorry, but like my sister Sharon, I have no idea who Theodoret was.
I've been recently pleased to discover that my family can trace its Orthodox Christian heritage to the year 1200, but we are mountain people (Arkadia/Tripolis), but he isn't (to my knowledge) on our calendar.
The blessed Saint may be very significant, but I'm sorry to admit, I don't know of him.
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Vasili,
Thanks for the link. Whatever the subtleties of the politics and theology may have been, Theodoret sounds like a man of integrity.
Sharon
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Dear Friend,
Glory to Jesus Christ!
I am a newcomer and so have just come across your very interesting question regarding Theodoret.
Theodoret is most definitely a glorified Saint of the Assyrian Church of the East and one of its Fathers. His cult is strong there and there have been churches and monasteries built in his honour.
He also has a position in the Orthodox Church as "Blessed Theodoret" although I am not aware of any public liturgical cult in his honour.
As you know, the term "Blessed" is often applied to those whose views the Orthodox Church deems to be in varying degrees of error, although the sum total was not something to have prevented their cult completely e.g. "Blessed Augustine of Hippo" (although the Greek Church calls him "St Augustine the Great") and "Blessed Jerome."
Blessed Theodoret appears in connection with the Old Rite Schism in Russia.
The Old Believers refer to an episode in the life of Blessed Theodoret where he used the famous two-fingered Sign of the Cross to bless himself. This was crucial as a kind of "proof" that ancient Christians crossed themselves in the way that Old Believers and Old Rite Orthodox do today.
The later Slavonic Psalter published by Jordanville refers to Blessed Theodoret and this event in order to dissuade people from crossing themselves with two fingers. It states "Who knows if this story is true?" And if it was, Blessed Theodoret was only one person etc.
God bless,
Alex
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