Originally posted by Orthodox Catholic:
Dear David,
Very good point.
(Are you taking some sort of spiritual vitamin pill that you are becoming so theologically articulate?
)
Dear Alex,
I thank you for this undeserved compliment. What I have become, for I do know that when I started out here I was not as "Eastern" as I am today, I owe to you, our illustrious Admin, our soon to be Deacon Lance, Fr Elias, and too many others to name. I owe you all a debt of gratitude for putting up with me and helping me form myself as a Byzantine Catholic.
Originally posted by Amado Guerrero:
Dear DavidB and Alex:
I offer no proof that St. Peter was or became celibate.
I only presumed this was so because of his (Peter's) constant travels, with or without the other Apostles and his/their disciples, to far away places like Antioch, Jerusalem, Rome, and back again.
Also, I think Jesus, in selecting each and everyone of the Apostles, said rather clearly: "Come, follow me, and bear your own cross!" or to that effect.
Did Jesus say: "Come, follow me with your wife, and children . . .!?"
Amado Amado,
So you presumed that St Peter was celibate because of his travels, I guess you presume this as it doesn't say anywhere that he traveled with his wife. Also you make a presumption as to what his cross is that Jesus was referring to when he called him.... But actually when Jesus called Peter he said, " And He said to them, 'Follow Me, and I will make you fishers of men.'" (Matthew 4:19)
Jesus doesn't say anything about bearing a cross until he speaks about the meaning of Discipleship. "'And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me.' (Matthew 10:38)
On a lighter note, knowing as I do that I am called to be celibate, I would think that marriage would be a cross and Jesus does say to take your cross and follow Him, not leave it behind and follow Him.
I must make one point, which I gain from the scientific world,
absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
I think that point bears well on St Peter's relationship with his wife, as there is no comment on it at all so we can not know.
David