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Originally posted by Juan Diego:
One would think at some point that these folks would see what is really going on in the world - the Culture of Death is beating down the doors everywhere and all these particular Orthodox can do is get angry at Patriarch Lubomyr's relocation from Lviv to Kyiv.

What they need is not anger or scorn, but prayer - and lots of it.
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THEN can we kick them?

Gaudior, pained to see this sort of idiocy from those who should be setting the best example of Christ's love frown

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Gaudior,

You may "kick" as you see fit.

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Am I the only person who is suddenly reminded of a famous Biblical quote which cannot be repeated at this immediate moment because in this context it would be overly vulgar?

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Blessings in christ,
Hello I am a new member to this forum and also a newly converted christian byzantine catholic.I this past weekend went to the antiochian village(because my brother who is a protestant minister and seminarian) is on the verge of converting.We sat in on a open night and I found it interesting to hear their side of the schism.But being strong in my faith fulness to christ see it as a manly pride getting in the way thing.Why do scholarly people want to disect the words of christ?Well maybe he meant this or maybe he meant that.To me he called him cephas,which means rock and upon this rock i will build my church.It is simple to me and very peaceful to finally after years of being protestant to reach the true christ,not the watered down one in reverence and love from my whole heart,and in total sacrifice to him.Pride goes before a fall!
We are to love one another,where is the love??

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jo, welcome to the forum.

I grew up not far from Antiochian village, and went to secondary school with many from St. Mary's Antiochian (then Syrian) Orthodox Church in Johnstown. A classmate from there always called me his Byzantine buddy, and dragged me off from school (technically it was hookey for me) on Orthodox Good Friday to go to services with him. That is a cherished memory. We were more similar than different and never dwelt on arguing differences.

The argumentation is all vanity. In the first place, if everything were obvious and easily solved on the basis of actual accessible, demonstrable knowledge, then the schism would not exist = apart from a handful of diehards.

But the truth is not obvious. I am always amazed that people who would never in a million years consider themselves as sufficiently educated and trained to act as their own medical doctors nevertheless act with such conviction and certitude as their own spiritual doctors. Truly amazing when one considers the consequences of a wrong diagnosis.

Somehow: "Here I stand..." is cherished in American culture. But what we so direly need is humilty before God, and ardent desire to help each other. A desire to value being and doing good above thinking ourselves to be right. And a better awareness of the vanity of our greatest thoughts. How to get there? Maybe Napolean Dynamite will help. wink

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Thankyou DJS,
You said that beautifully.I have never understood nor accepted christians bashing each other,I do believe it goes against christ himself.I have heard it said to me," yeah-did you know I grew up in a catholic school and am finally being deprogrammed." I was shocked at such a bold statement.I am still shocked at some of this forum as well.
May Christ's light shine upon this forum.

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