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It seems that the Orthodox want the traditional(ist) Anglicans to consider Orthodoxy in the wake of this Gene Robinson stuff. Read the last paragraph to the article (or the entire article if you wish). American and Australian traditionalists are preparing to submit to papal authority should Archbishop Rowan Williams and the Primates fail to restore order to the wayward American Episcopal Church and the Anglican Communion.
Representatives from the North American and Australian branches of Forward in Faith (FiF) travelled to Rome in October and November to discuss a reunion of traditionalist Anglicans with the Roman Catholic Church.
The Rev Dr David Moyer, president of the North American FiF, confirmed that the two sides were speaking, but declined to elaborate. �I can�t go into what people like me are willing to do,� he told us. �There are simply too many sensitive people and issues involved at this point.�
He was in Rome as an ambassador for the international FiF organisation, and the Australian representative, David Chislett, has also been involved in discussions, together with the head of the Traditional Anglican Communion.
Long-simmering tensions between the traditionalist Anglo-Catholic wing of the Church and the Church establishment reached boiling point following Gene Robinson�s consecration.
�The bottom line is that the Anglican Communion is being stressed to breaking point,� said Fr Moyer. �It seems the responsible thing is to look to those whose passion for, and commitment to, biblical faith and order is solid and unwavering for a way forward together.�
The Anglican participants are proposing communion with the Catholic Church, whilst retaining Anglican doctrine and liturgy.
�There are many Uniate churches with their own tradition, their own liturgical expression of faith, their own bishops and their own governing authority,� Fr Moyer has noted. FiF (NA) hopes that a grouping of orthodox Anglicans would be looked upon by Rome in the same way.
The consecration of Gene Robinson appears to have set the break-up of the Episcopal Church in the USA in motion, with these latest revelations coming a week after a new parallel structure was set up in America of conservatives opposed to him becoming bishop.
Dr Williams intervened on Fr Moyer�s behalf last year to offer support when he was sacked by his bishop, Charles Bennison of Pennsylvania. Yet the Archbishop faces a difficult task in persuading traditionalists to remain within the Anglican fold if he cannot assure them that the liberal tide will be stopped.
The Russian Orthodox Church has expressed its sympathy with the dissenting dioceses and parishes in ECUSA.
While breaking of all relations with the American national Church hierarchy, the Russian Orthodox Church stated it would �maintain contacts and co-operation with those members of the Episcopal Church in the USA who clearly declared their loyalty to the moral teaching of the Holy Gospel and the ancient undivided Church.�
The Church of England Newspaper has learned that Orthodox participants at the 8th Assembly of the All Africa Conference of Churches, which met last week in Yaounde, Cameroon, privately asked several Anglican participants to consider ties with Orthodoxy, should the Robinson crisis not be resolved. I think Catholicism needs to snatch these Anglicans up before they change their minds about entering the Church. Regardless of the motives of these Episcopalian ("Is it all PECUSA politics?", etc.), I think Rome needs to jump at the chance. What harm can come from welcoming converts into the Church? Logos Teen
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whilst retaining Anglican doctrine and liturgy
Well there's a huge difference between the "Uniatism" of the Eastern Catholic Church and the "uniatism" that these Anglicans would like to hold.
First of all, Byzantine Orhodox liturgy is fully acceptable for the Catholic Church because it's part of the ancient rites of the undivided Church, such as the Latin, Coptic, Armenian... Rites. And Orthodox doctrine does not contradict Catholic doctrine, even when it's about the Pope's primacy Catholics understand it as different interpretations of the Petrine Ministry.
Now, for Orthodox this is not the case. First of all Anglican liturgy as we know it nowadays is hardly of Apostolic conections, and if they exist, it has been corrupted with Naturalist and Protestant doctrine. And then, their doctrine, which is a mixture of protestant and Catholic beliefs cannot be acceptable for Orthodox (and even for Catholics). Orthodox require a full acceptance of Orthodox doctrines, and the Catholic Church requires at least doctrines consistent with the general doctrine of the Roman Church: there's no place for those who deny or diminish the real nature of the eucharistic presence or those who diminish the supernatural aspects of holy orders for example, or the doctrines about the episcopacy (which on the Catholic side, include the full recognition of Papal supremacy and infalibility).
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