www.byzcath.org Forums General Discussions Town Hall Proposed New Translations for the Roman Liturgy

I understand the objection, but disagree. That's why I placed it in the Town Hall section since it's definitely not a Byzantine item but it is something that does affect the entire Church in this country. The principles behind these new translations might possibly be used some day in translations of our services so this happening in the RC Church could conceivably have an impact on our Church someday.

Non timete nos episcopos! Non!

Ah, did I just say 'Don't scare our bishops' or 'Don't fear our bishops'...? I'm not certain that the latter is even possible, after all.

The proposed texts can be viewed at:

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/8.30/relrpt/liturgy.htm

Dave,

To which principles are you referring? I'm sorry, but they are not self evident to me.

I'm only speaking theoretically. The translation principles in the revision of the Roman Missal are much different than the current texts in the Roman Church. Some may feel it's an improvement. Some may disagree. Whatever the case, it's of interest to all Catholics (whether Latin or Byzantine or Syro-Malankara, etc.) as these type of disagreements over translation can affect each ritual Church.

I was only responding to the idea that what happens in the Roman Church is of no interest to Byzantines and was not making any application to events in other Churches. I apologize if I gave the impression otherwise.

Slava Isusu Christu!

Hello bretheren! It's nice to be back after a hiatus. I hope all of you are well and in good spirits.

I have recently read redemptionis sacramentum and the new (ABC exclusive)proposed rite of Mass and am rather numb about the whole thing. I mean the whole issue of the integrity of liturgical translations should of been dealt with 40 years ago - not after the Jubilee Year! But, we cannot get in our liturgical time machines, in the modern Latin Church, now can we?

I cannot imagine a Latin parish that would take the new translations, or a bishop other than a few conservatives who would take it seriously. This means that it is going to take the USCCB to go along with Rome on this; however, if this happens then wonderful! I still think the Anglicans had it right 400+ years ago :)I mean why can't they just use Rite I, for the Roman translation for English-speaking people, and be done with this issue..hehe I mean even Rite II (BCP) uses pro multis (for many) in the consecration (too bad they don't have valid priests, except odds and ends like former Catholic priest Fr. Matthew Fox, to make a valid consecration).The Book of Common Prayer had glorious English Liturgy way before ICEL or the new Commission got ahold of the revised (renewed?)Latin Missale Romanum of Paul VI. But Rome for the past 40+ years has been trying to re-invent the wheel. Hey, let-em...lets watch and see what comes of it!

At any rate...I think the neo-orthodox priests in Sem will like it.

In Christ,


Ruthenian traveler
(Robert)

The proposed new translation are an improvement. Nevertheless, it seems to be [much] too little and [much] too late.

What else is to be expected?

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