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Dear Friends,
In viewing the home page of the Ecumenical Patriarchate, there is a link that lists previous Patriarchs, dating back to St. Andrew the Apostle.
In some instances, there are Patriarchs listed that have held this title twice i.e.. (Photius I the Great from 858-867, 877-886 A.D.)
How is this possible ?
I had always thought that a Patriarch holds this position until they repose in the Lord, or they resign ?

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Yes they resign (or are deposed) then are elected again. This happened with one pope as well I recall.

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I believe during the Ottoman period it was not uncommon for patriarchs to have to pay massive bribes to the Porte in order to be affirmed by the Sultan. It was worth paying up, because the office itself became so lucrative and influential given how the Turks ran the millet system. The Turks in turn realized more patriarchal elections meant more cash in the till, so they would under various circumstances force the deposition or re-election of a standing patriarch. I believe one was �elected� more than two times. This was a very trying time for the church and the transformation of the patriarchate during the Ottoman occupation had a lot of very wide ranging and negative effects.

The situation of St. Photios the Great had its own set of circumstances.

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Yes Pope Benedict XI was deposed and reelected twice.

145. BENEDICT IX (Theophylactus): Tusculum; 1032 to 1044

146. SYLVESTER III (John): Rome; Jan. 20, 1045, to Feb. 10, 1045

Sylvester III was an antipope if the forcible removal of Benedict IX in 1044 was not legitimate.

147. BENEDICT IX (second time): Apr. 10, 1045, to May 1, 1045

148. GREGORY VI (John Gratian): Rome; May 5, 1045, to Dec. 20, 1046

149. CLEMENT II (Suitger, Lord of Morsleben and Hornburg): Saxony; Dec. 24 (25), 1046, to Oct. 9, 1047

If the triple removal of Benedict IX in 1044, 1046, and 1047 were invalid, Gregory VI and Clement II were antipopes.

150. BENEDICT IX (third time): Nov. 8, 1047, to July 17, 1047 (d. c. 1055)


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Lucky Patriarchs got to be on the throne again. Unlucky Patriarchs were murdered, usually by strangulation. The Turks had thing about that means of sorting out their problems.

I cant help but wonder if the status the EP has today is more centred in the power the Othomans gave them than any relationship to their old status among the eastern Patriarchs pre the fall of Constantinople.


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