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Daniel is way out of line. This is not his first offense against others of good will. Please have him removed from the forum, and bring back Alex.
in Christ,
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I agree as well. Alex seems to have lately been the whipping boy for many on this forum...interestingly enough, usually folks who haven't been around for a fraction of the time he has. I really don't think it is fair. Don
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???????????? Has Alex been banned???? I have seen him post several times today. I hope he hasn't. His humor and wonderful knowledge of history (even with disagreements  are an asset to this Forum!
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Alex has not been banned and is a member of the Forum in good standing.
I agree that Daniel�s post to Alex was unacceptable and that Daniel should apologize for it.
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That is good news about Alex, I believe Daniel is confused, I will pray for him.
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It has been strongly suggested to me by the leadership here that it would be best if I consider leaving.
That's how I understood it and it isn't as if there aren't other avenues in which to channel one's energies, even someone so obviously reprehensible as myself, than this forum.
I've sinned many a time, and I have many limitations.
But I know when I've outstayed my welcome.
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No, Alex, I think I am the one who has outstayed his welcome. The postings on this thread are downright hostile. I am really growing weary with being called uncharitable when I post a hard truth and by people getting offended by my humor. And I am weary with all the drama you, Alex, bring to the forum. You are very entertaining and knowledgeable but you seem to crave attention. I have been here only since September and you have exited dramatically what? four or five times at least. And you are obviously loved here! It is becoming apparent that I am not so well loved, that a lot of people don't think well of me here at all and that I should perhaps leave.
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Dear Dr Alex Roman Words and phrases can have more than one sense when written, perhaps you just sense a little frustration? I cannot read your correspondence but I am sure no one would suggest that you leave.  You and I have clashed a few times on various minor issues in the past and we have always seen beyond the differences and kept it from getting personal. I appreciate the causes you champion, I learn about them and it widens my perspective. I know you realize that I won't always agree with you, but sometimes we do agree, and I do respect you. I am particularly pleased with your efforts to enlighten the public about my hero, Jan Hus! Although you as the offended party are the real judge of it I hope you will see the minor indiscretion for the jest it appears to be and forgive us. Please try to overlook this incident, there has been far too much coming and going and your contributions here are very widely appreciated. Your friend in Christ, Michael
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Dear Daniel n,
We are just having another blowout here. Please consider that I as well as many others agree with the pith and substance of most of your posts. This is a difficult, one dimensional medium, If we were face-to-face we could say the same things and have no problems.
Consider how all-caps seems like SHOUTING. Without eye contact and voice inflections we cannot get away with some of the things we would say over coffee or beer. We have all been trapped like that typing this junk here.
You are very bright and have a way of speaking your mind, I think you should not underestimate the power of your words.
Please continue to post here, share your knowledge and opinions and your humor. I for one would miss you.
In Christ always,
Michael
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Brother Michael,
2 good posts, however I must admit I have Danieln confused with another Daniel that posts here and my humble apologies to Danieln.
Michael are you on the run again ?
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Alex wrote:
It has been strongly suggested to me by the leadership here that it would be best if I consider leaving. Sigh. Neither I nor any of the moderators on the Forum have suggested to Alex that it would be best if he stopped posting. Alex has repeatedly mentioned in the past that his spiritual father has directed him not to be involved in internet forums. Earlier today I did suggest to him that he consider discussing his involvement with his spiritual director. Alex is free to participate or not participate as he desires.
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Suggestion to DanielN: Select a new screen name. Apparently your reputation suffers from confusion with others! This would be quite a comedy, if we weren't so busy being sad.
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Dear Administrator, I think you are confusing Daniel aka ByzantineAscetic the soon to be Orthodox with DanielN who is Catholic and has no intention of converting. I think others may have also combined the two into one composite Daniel. :-) In Christ, Anthony Originally posted by Administrator: Alex wrote:
[b]It has been strongly suggested to me by the leadership here that it would be best if I consider leaving.
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Daniel,
Your posts are uncharitable. Period. You need to learn to disagree with others while still being charitable. If you need some examples of this I suggest that you spend some time watching our Congress in action on C-SPAN. You will win far more respect for your positions when they are logically and charitably presented than you will with the uncharitable style.
At the risk of boring some of our participants I will again post what I wrote to you in another thread:
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The virtue of charity in all things has always been an important element in the behavior of Orthodox Christians. Your behavior on the Forum in recent weeks and months has not been at all charitable. I am positive that a visitor with the beginning of interest in Orthodoxy who reads what you have written would quickly flee from all things Orthodox based upon your example of Orthodoxy. If you cannot compose your posts in charity then I must ask you to refrain from posting altogether.
Regarding the reference to the Ecumenical Patriarch being the �[t]he spiritual leader of the world's 300 million Orthodox Christians�, Orthodoxy quite clearly assigns the Ecumenical Patriarch the title �first among equals�. If the primacy as �first among equals� is even just one of honor than the he most definitely is a spiritual leader within Orthodoxy. Patriarch Ignatius IV (Hazim) of Antioch � the patriarchate you are preparing to enter communion with � has no problem assigning this title to the E.P. I find it disconcerting that you, a novice in Orthodoxy, pretend to know more than the bishops and people of the Orthodox Church you are asking to accept you.
I recommend that you print out what you have posted here in recent weeks and show it to both your spiritual father and to your pastor. If you are honest and content with your posts you will have no fear of doing this. If you are afraid of your spiritual father and pastor seeing what you have written then it is all the more imperative that you show them to them and seek their counsel.
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Thanks to all who PM'd and e-mailed me, bringing to my attention that I have mistaken "daniel n" for Daniel ("Byzantine Ascetic"). I apologize to daniel n for my error.
I do agree with djs that daniel n should choose a different screen name to avoid confusion with the other Daniel whose posts have been extremely uncharitable. I suspect others have made a similar error.
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