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Dear Alex:

Just for general information purposes, I know exactly who Taras Shevchenko was.


defreitas

Dear Jose,

Including those poem-quotes?

Alex

No, they don't know much about Shevchenko at St. Elias -- only about Pushkin!!! And Vasnetsov.

The funny thing about him that most Ukrainians don't know is that all of his prose was in Russian.

Daniil

Dear Daniil,

Yes, and I almost fear writing anything further about Shevchenko lest Jose say he knew that too . . .

In Shevchenko's day, of course, there was no television or DVD.

The book was the chief form of entertainment, well, at least the chief moral form, anyway.

If you could write a book, you were really paid well, as in the Russian Empire.

It was Panteleimon Kulish who later taught Shevchenko his Ukrainian.

Shevchenko's national consciousness, however, was formed through the village songs and ballads he heard throughout Zvenihorodshchyna and from the Kozak epics.

But until Kulish got to him, when it came to Ukrainian grammar, Shevchenko was like our Broric with English grammar .

It's a good thing Broric is such a good sport!

Alex

Dear Daniil & Alex:

As to "Pushkin and Vasnetsov" I heard aboot Ukraine before I had ever heard aboot Russia.

My father purchased our first house, which was a stone's throw from the Basilian Press, from an old Ukrainian gentleman.


defreitas

Dear Jose,

You are a better Ukrainian than most Ukrainians I know!

And so was our great friend, Father George Couto (+memory eternal!) as you know.

Is it just me, or is everyone around here feeling down today?

February is almost over! Tomorrow is the start of my birthday month, er, March!

And as for who knows more about Ukrainian issues, well, that, plus $1.50 will buy you a cup of coffee!

Bo Tard! (Is that how you say it?)

Alex

Alex,
St. Petro Mohyla of the Pechery wasn't Ukrainian?!?!
-ukrainiancatholic

Nope. It always takes the "outsiders" (I mean it in a nice way) to inspire and lead us, and organize us. Petro Mohyla, Cyril Korolevsky, Lev Gillet, and the list goes on...

Daniil

Then what was he?
-uc

Dear UC,

St Peter Mohyla was a Moldo-Wallachian from Moldavia and his mother tongue was Roumanian.

He was in line for the Princely Throne of Moldavia as its "Hospodar" but rejected this to serve what he called his "Mother Kyivan Church."

St Paisius Velichkovsky, a Ukrainian from Poltava, fell in love, conversely, with Roumanian language and culture and half of his disciples were Roumanian.

He always had two choirs in Church to sing the services, one Old Slavonic and the other Roumanian.

One of the great Ukrainian patrons of Roumania is St John the New of Suchava, a businessman who attended the Council of Florence as an Orthodox layman.

On his way home, one fellow, jealous of his business prowess, reported him to the Turks as someone who had confessed to be a Muslim.

He denied this, and was tortured to death.

He was declared a saint and a Great-Martyr and his relics were enshrined at Suchava where he became the Patron of Bukovina and Roumania under Prince Alexander the Good of Moldavia.

St Peter Mohyla had a great devotion to St John as did my Great Aunt, Olha Kobylanska and anyone from Bukovina.

As a result of cordial relations between the Ukrainian Church and that of Roumania, especially via St Paisius, the cult of Sts. Volodymyr and Olha, Boris and Hlib and the Kyivan Caves Lavra flourished in Roumania.

St Pachomios the Roman, a Roumanian bishop and Hesychast of the Paisian school, was canonized and his relics are now in the Kyivan Caves Lavra.

The relics of St Theodora the Carpathian ("Bohdanna") rested at the Lavra until they were returned to her native Roumania (St Theodora of Sihla).

Alex

Dear Alex:

You mentioned that you had an icon of the new Ukrainian martyrs. Is that just a print on the internet, or do you actually have a wood icon? I have been looking for one. I visited the Ukranina metropolitian cathedral in Philadelphia, and asked at the religious goods store across the street. They said they did not have one, or it had to be special ordered. (Probably want big bucks for it.) I've ordered a print of the martyrs of Patulin from Russia.
Well, can you send me an icon too?? Thanks.

Oh yea, Alex, my email is
casmerm@prodigy.net
Thanks

Dear Mike,

I'll send you one, but you have to withdraw your statements that I had a "problem with Padre Pio."

Otherwise I won't

Alex