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Greetings all!, thanks for the warm welcome.
Alex and byzanTN., the Orthodox Presbyterian Church actually has nothing to do with "Orthodoxy" in the sense you are probably used to meaning. The OPC developed out of the Fundamentalist-Modernist controversies within the major Protestant denominations during the 1920's and 30's. Several young men, led by J. Gresham Machen and Carl McIntyre, recognized that the (then)Northern branch of the Presbyterian Church was falling to the Liberal theologians/ Modernists and after several years of trying to fight the downward trend, finally decided that the best thing to do was to separate from the apostacy they saw and form the Orthodox Presbyterian Church around 1936. The Bible Presbyterians are a split from the OPC over some leadership issues and a few minor theological points.
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One thing I enjoy about posting here is discovering the difference in terminology. "Orthodox" to most members here refers to your churches and their system of theology.
To most evangelicals it refres to orthodoxy of the scriptures - almost a synonym of conservative.
Or am I mistaken on your views of the term?
"...that through patience, and comfort of the scriptures, you might have hope"Romans 15v4
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Originally posted by Berean:
One thing I enjoy about posting here is discovering the difference in terminology. "Orthodox" to most members here refers to your churches and their system of theology.
To most evangelicals it refres to orthodoxy of the scriptures - almost a synonym of conservative.
Or am I mistaken on your views of the term? Roger, We actually use it both ways. You'll see folks qualify their use of the word by use of the phrases "small o" or "lower-case o" or by writing "(o)rthodox" or "(O)rthodox" to emphasize the usage that they intend. Hope that made sense, I just woke up and am not exactly clear-headed (not yet (o)rthodox in my thought process  ). Wow, that was a terrible usage/example, wasn't it  ? Many years, Neil
"One day all our ethnic traits ... will have disappeared. Time itself is seeing to this. And so we can not think of our communities as ethnic parishes, ... unless we wish to assure the death of our community."
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Good answer! Basically then, I think the difference would be that when I use orthodox it is always a lower case "o" unless it is part of the title of a church. And yes, your post did make sense  .
"...that through patience, and comfort of the scriptures, you might have hope"Romans 15v4
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Roger The real difference you are looking for there is' big O' Orthodox and ' small o' orthodox  - and after all you did describe it very well yourself. Crumbs - Neil beat me to it again Anhelyna - thinking that some folk really do not get enough sleep
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Originally posted by Orthodox Catholic: There actually WAS a Ukrainian Presbyterian church in Canada that tried to follow the Byzantine rites . . .
They had an iconostasis, but no icons.
I think we can BOTH agree that we are happy this experiment failed . . . Alex, Very interesting, but not unheard of. To harken back to the off topic side-lights that arose from the discussion about the African Orthodox Church on the thread about Eastern Christianity in Africa : Many years, Neil
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Interesting, Neil. I think many Catholic customs have spread to Protestantism. Some of the large Southern Baptist Churches here celebrate Advent. That was unheard of 25 years ago.
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Dear Friends, However . . . Some groups do use "Orthodox" when referring to themselves, perhaps by way of formal title, but, after a while, they keep the first "O" capitalized! I've seen articles written about "Orthodox Roman Catholicism" (sic) referring to traditional RC's. We also have a Lutheran group, Ukies who separated from the UGCC before the second world war. There are Lutherans in Ukraine and Russia who use icons. A long time ago, when we still had "Brendan the Navigator" with us, we received postings from a "Byzantine Lutheran" who referred to his church as "Orthodox in communion with Augsburg." There are Anglicans who have become Orthodox and who sometimes refer to themselves as "Orthodox Anglicans." And I do believe that Arnold Mathew was referred to as an "Orthodox Old Catholic" - in the real "Orthodox" sense. Alex
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?). Some of these are still around, with congregations that often include 3rd and 4th generation descendents of early parishioners. They're often identifiable as a church named for a saint, but belonging to a denomination that typically would eschew such papism. A statue of the BVM on the Methodist church lawn is another giveaway 
