www.byzcath.org Forums General Discussions Town Hall How many believe Mr. Bush is a god?

I'd love to offer an alternative. I think that the alternative should be pro-life Christians punishing Republicans at the polls by voting in large numbers for third-party candidates who actually support their beliefs.

If the Bushes and Santorums of the world lose a few elections due to lack of pro-life support, because they failed to stand on principle--instead of being rewarded by us for their refusal to stand on principle--we might actually see some willingness among Republicans to act on abortion. But as long as they can continue in their current halfast ways, and not worry about losing our support, they will.

LatinTrad

How will this insure that the butchers of babies don't run the show?

Dan L

At the Admin's fair request, I amend my post to saying that I think the policies which Bush and his VP espouse are satanic.

Logos Teen

I suppose one might say all of life is satanic. After all is he the ruler of "the powers and prince of the air." There's nothing more or less "satanic" about this administration's policies than there are about any administration's policies. It's just that this kind of satanical rhetoric is as useful as nothing at all.

dan l

I agree with this post. I voted for a minor party candidate in the last election. For me to vote for the "lesser of two evils", in my mind, would be for me to still condone that evil.

Berean, preach on brother! I am in the same boat, having switched to independent some time ago as a matter of conscience after having been a life-long Repub, including past state party committee member delegate.

I have never in my life been so at peace voting my conscience as this election. Needless to say I also did not vote for either "major party" candidate.

Percentages mean nothing, and have meant nothing since one man, the Logos Incarnate and his twelve followers made up the smallest "minority party" of the first century. There are always alternatives, although many would like to put their heads in the sand of "lesser of two evils".

Lesser of evils is still objectively evil. One can make whatever Machiavellian arguments to attempt to justify, but the objective reality remains. We've hashed many times over the Santorum betrayal of Toomey, and Spector's tarnished record, etc. Sellouts like that in the name of the "party" are simply unconscienable to any Catholic or true believing Christian and further incentive to get off the carousel.

How will this insure that the butchers of babies don't run the show? I wonder what Alan Keyes thinks on this topic?

Dan L

It doesn't insure anything, but it allows me to vote fo a candidate who is opposed to ALL abortions. Voting for a major candidate also insures nothing.

Berean,

You do have a point. I'm still going to check out Alan Keyes, the only Republican I can always vote for with a clear conscience.

Dan L

I think I could vote for Alan Keyes.

Berean,

I'm still checking out Mr. Keyes' website but take a look at what I found there. It's in forum #1.

Dan L

Thanks Dan,

And I swore I'd stay out of politics on this board .

I'm sorry but I find the above absurd. If you were to follow the politics in Washington, which is readily available on the many Evangelical, etc. sites, you would know the only way that abortion could be stopped is by appointing conservative judges to the bench.

So far, it has been very difficult. One of the reasons so many voted for our President, was so that we would hopefully have a majority in the Senate.

What is happening, is that the conservative judges appointed by Pres. Bush, are not being brought to a vote by the Senate. This is undemocratic.

The reason for this is: In order to stop the filibustering that was bound to occur by the Democrats towards any of Pres. Bush's conservative appointee's, they had decided in the Senate, that everything should be passed by a certain committee before being brought to a vote.

Now, for one, we have Senator Schumer on that committee, and he (a very liberal Democrat), will not allow any of the President's appointee's to be brought to a vote. Now do you understand what's going on?

I'm terribly sorry if I sound a little rude, but it's getting tireing trying to combat all the 'spin' that the Democrats keep spewing out.

If you truly want to do something about abortion, then give your full support to our President, because he is going to have a big fight on his hands. A fight that will determine the future of our nation for the next forty years.

Zenovia

Dear Logos Teen,

You can have your opinion, that is your priviledge. We each have a heart, a mind and a free will. As for me, I have total faith in the policies of our administration, and frankly, I believe that I have discernment, and you don't. So there!!!!!

Zenovia

Sounds like one of the yes votes.