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I've been thinking... incognitus hasn't been forthcoming with his identity, seems to know a number of languages, and has apparently travelled a bit. Perhaps he works for some government, in a 'non-public' capacity?  Just a thought... Sorry, have to run - a black helicopter has just landed in my garden!
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While this is fun let's not unmask him. Having an anonymous status lets him speak plainly and it's exactly that quality about Incognitus that makes him so special!
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Getting that elusive film of Bishop Justin's episcopal consecration in a form that we all could enjoy is an excellent idea. While we're at it, I could think of some other historic films which we might like to accumulate - the consecration of the Johnstown cathedral is now (I think) available on video. There was an audio recording made of Bishop Fulton Sheen serving Divine Liturgy at Uniontown - since he is now a candidate for beatification this would be a potential relic. Then of course there was the audio recording - and also a movie, I'm fairly sure - of the Canonical **** [improper word deleted] in Pittsburgh when the Byzantine Catholic Metropolia was . . . well . . . er . . . shall we say . . . inaugurated. Any more suggestions? Joking aside, it really would be a good idea to accumulate such a collection. Incognitus
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Originally posted by incognitus:
it really would be a good idea to accumulate such a collection. Incognitus, All I can offer at the moment is a videotape, which someone gave me, of the tv broadcast of Bishop John's enthronement. Many years, Neil
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Originally posted by Hritzko:
I was at work that day but notice on the news two byzantine bishops in the ceremony. My assumption was a Ukrainian (yes I'am ethnocentric), and perhaps a Ruthenian bishop. Perhaps it was a Melkite and some other. Can you tell me who they were. Greg, Hmm, you're actually talking about either Bishop Ignatius (1990), of blessed memory, or Bishop John (1993), probably the latter; you aren't old enough to have been working when Archbishop Joseph was enthroned (1970)  . As memory serves me, Bishop Ignatius was ordained by Patriarch Maximos V, assisted by Archbishop Joseph and Bishop Michael (Hakim), Eparchy of Saint-Sauveur de Montreal (Melkite), all of blessed memory. The day of Bishop Ignatius' ordination was marked by a nasty snow storm; I distinctly remember sliding through a u-turn at the Cathedral entrance with the Bishop-elect in the back seat. Without going and reviewing the video of Bishop John's enthronement (he had been ordained back in the mid-80s, when he was named Auxiliary), I'm trying to recollect which hierarchs were in attendance. As for Melkites, both Archbishop Joseph and Bishop Michael were in attendance. I have a recollection that Archbishop Fran�ois Abou-Mokh, now Emeritus Auxiliary of Antioch was present. Was the Ukrainian whom you saw taller than anyone in sight? Bishop Basil (Losten) of Stamford misses very few such events at our Cathedral. The Ruthenian was likely Bishop Michael (Dudick), now Emeritus of Passaic, a real gentleman; he was another who could always be counted on to attend any liturgical function to which he was invited and I seem to remember picking him up from the airport. Perhaps Incognitus can verify or add to my recollections  . Many years, Neil
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Incognitus,
While we're on the topic of memorabilia ... I have a copy of a souvenir booklet printed to commemorate the Boston visit of Patriarch Maximos IV, of blessed memory, back in 1955.
Pages 3-4 are missing from my copy and I'd love to get a photocopy of those. You don't by chance have access to a copy of same, do you?
Many years,
Neil
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Originally posted by Irish Melkite:
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Pages 3-4 are missing from my copy and I'd love to get a photocopy of those. You don't by chance have access to a copy of same, do you?
Many years,
Neil Hmm - if Fr Elias attempt at getting an address that way didn't work - what makes you think that this one will ? :p
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Dear Neil, YOU SAID: Was the Ukrainian whom you saw taller than anyone in sight? Bishop Basil (Losten) of Stamford misses very few such events at our Cathedral. The Ruthenian was likely Bishop Michael (Dudick), now Emeritus of Passaic, a real gentleman; he was another who could always be counted on to attend any liturgical function to which he was invited and I seem to remember picking him up from the airport. Perhaps Incognitus can verify or add to my recollections . Many years, Neil My response: My error - I said bishop Joseph, and I meant Sean O'malley the RC Archbishop's ceremony here at the Cathedral of the Holy Cross in Boston's South-End. Yes - there was one tall byzantine bishop at the end of the procession, and a smaller one to the rear.
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Attention Irish Melkite - Dear Neil, I think that somewhere in my disorganized collection I have a copy of the souvenir booklet of Patriarch Maximos IV's visit. If I can find it, I'll gladly provide you with a photocopy of the pages you are missing (and if I can't find my own copy I can probably find a friend or two who would have it). When this is located, do you care to give me your address, shall I send it to you at the Cathedral in care of Father Eugene, or is there another method you would prefer? [Actually I'd prefer to hand it to you over a lobster dinner, but I don't know when I shall next be in Boston.]
As for sending something to me, nothing could be simpler - send it to the Administrator with a request that he forward it. Incognitus
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Originally posted by Our Lady's slave of love: Hmm - if Fr Elias attempt at getting an address that way didn't work - what makes you think that this one will ? :p Anhelyna, You are such a cynic :p ! I'm looking for him to send me something - which he can do by passing it thru so many emissaries that I'd never know his locale, let alone his name. Many years, Neil
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Originally posted by incognitus:
If I can find it, I'll gladly provide you with a photocopy of the pages you are missing (and if I can't find my own copy I can probably find a friend or two who would have it). When this is located, do you care to give me your address, shall I send it to you at the Cathedral in care of Father Eugene, or is there another method you would prefer? [Actually I'd prefer to hand it to you over a lobster dinner, but I don't know when I shall next be in Boston.] Incognitus, I'd be most grateful. Since you don't have pms enabled, I've sent my mailing address to our revered Administrator to forward to you. (Actually, I'm all for the dinner when next you do visit Boston - who's hosting? Many years, Neil
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Originally posted by Hritzko:
My error - I said bishop Joseph, and I meant Sean O'malley the RC Archbishop's ceremony here at the Cathedral of the Holy Cross in Boston's South-End.
Yes - there was one tall byzantine bishop at the end of the procession, and a smaller one to the rear. Greg, I didn't see Archbishop O'Malley's enthronement, but my educated guess would be that the tall one was Bishop Basil and the short one was likely our Eparch, Bishop John. (There haven't really been any major occasions up this way since Bishop Michael retired, so I don't yet have a sense of whether Bishop Andrew would have been likely to show up. Back in the times of Cardinal Cushing and our Archbishop Joseph, personal attendance at such occasions by Eastern Church hierarchs was more common; these days, delegated representation by their nearest clergyman seems to be more the norm.) Many years, Neil
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Originally posted by Hritzko: Originally posted by paromer:
[b] Because there is a Sicilian population in Vegas. Because my aunt thought it was a really cool place to live so packed up all my cousins and moved there? Oh wait, you mean there are other Sicilians living there besides my family? Vie
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Originally posted by incognitus:
Actually I'm in cyberspace. Did you know, incidentally, that Las Vegas has what to the best of my limited knowledge is the only Italo-Greek parish in the Western Hemisphere? Now why would that be, do you suppose?
Incognitus Some one told me recently that there is an Italo-Greek parish in Staten Island, NY...another place with a heavy Sicilian population...
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Originally posted by Ladyhawke1017:
Some one told me recently that there is an Italo-Greek parish in Staten Island, NY...another place with a heavy Sicilian population... Vie, Our Lady of Grace Byzantine Italo-Greek Catholic Mission is located on Staten Island. It has a beautiful website Our Lady of Grace Mission [ byzantines.net] Many years, Neil
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