Wild Goose,
Yes, I was referring to your claims in other threads, claims which you have stated as obvious truths but for which you produced no scientific evidence.
Your own grandmother is an excellent example of someone who wisely chose not even to consider drinking alcohol (even though there is a legitimate use of alcohol) because she knew it could lead towards the alcoholism. There are certainly large numbers of alcoholics living and working in the world who have never had one drink. There are also large numbers of alcoholics who have drunk in the past and learned the hard way that the abuse of alcohol is immoral. The struggle to avoid alcohol for someone with an alcoholic disorder is great and those with such a tendency are to be helped and cared for.
You have seen alcohol abuse and you know in your heart the damage it can do to a family and to society. The Church, in its wisdom, sees this struggle as well as other struggles. You took the original quote from the discussion on homosexual activity. The Church, in a clear teaching since Genesis knows the struggle of homosexual individuals and offers support to them to refrain from all immoral sexual activity and to unite their struggles to the Cross. Your grandmother knew that alcohol abuse was immoral and lived a life that avoided temptations towards alcoholism (since abuse of alcohol is immoral). Likewise, the Church asks everyone to live lives that avoid every possible temptation towards immoral behavior. The Church knows from whence it speaks. This knowledge is quantifiable.
Since this thread is really an offshoot of another thread I will close it. If you wish to respond I recommend keeping the discussion within the other thread.
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