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Originally posted by Orthodox Catholic:
Dear Incognitus,
A number of friends of mine here have gone, including Hritzko's brother whom I know.
Alex Actually, both of his brothers whent. Which one to you know ? I.F.
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Originally posted by Halychanyn:
Dear Alex, Diak, et al:
In short, the MP's behavior is so much like Putin's it's scary.
Yours,
hal No, it's not 'scary'. It's because they are both former KGB operative. Seems you can't teach old doggies new tricks I.F.
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Based on yesterday's (AOL or Yahoo wire services) reports, it's better to have friends in Turkmenestan. They seem to be the real players in the gas business. Having friends in Russia is not as good as having friends in Turkmenestan (or Washington since it supports this ex-Soviet Rupublic  ). I.F.
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Originally posted by incognitus:
Well, the chickens have hatched; all but 5 % of the votes are counted, and the Electoral Commission has certified that Yushchenko is the winner - so we can mix the champagne with the orange juice and celebrate!
I think that the inauguration is scheduled for 2 January - this coming Sunday.
The next battle is to get Ukraine into the European Union.
Incognitus January 10 and 14 have been suggested as inauguration dates. The next battle is to get Ukraine fully into NATO, so that eventual European integration will be guaranteed. This should be easy since the vast majority of Ukrainian officers want this to happen. it will happen within 5 years or less. I.F.
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Originally posted by Antrodox:
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Coalesco wrote: "I think there will always be a core group of UOC-MP in Ukraine because of the [b]large number of ethnic Russians in the country..."
These Ukrainian allophones made up some 20% of the population of Ukraine about a dozen years ago. There are now about 17.4% of such Ukrainian citizens left in Ukraine today.
[/b] The citizens of Eastern Ukraine are very much living in a pseudo-Soviet environment. In other words, the people pray in the church their government tells them is good for them. Further the vast majority of ethnic Russians are non-religious / atheists. Through no fault of their own, they have been dechurches generations ago. A good Ukrainian Patriarch who can reach out to them and provide them with the spiritual guidance they need will convert them and/or win them over. I.F.
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Dear Jean Francois,
I know Greg (Hritzko).
I was introduced to him here through the Administrator's good Byzantine Forum!
Alex
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Dear Friends,
Perhaps we can leave off this topic for a while now and/or begin a new thread on something related later on?
Everything seems to have worked out over there for the good.
Alex
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Victor Yuschenko has been declared the President of Ukraine. He has appointed Yulia Timoshenko as its premier; he's met with Vladimir Putin, and with the Moscow Patriarch Alexis II. The Russian Patriarch expressed the hope (the translation is mine) that Ukraine will flower into a united country, and that relations between countries of the slavic tradition will become activated. Source: http://www.yuschenko.com.ua/ukr/present/News/2187/
Antrodox
"Phyletism is heritical only to those ethnics in the majority."
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Dear Antrodox,
I can just see the meeting now . . .
Putin: Won't you have some borscht and pirozhki, Comrade President?
Yuschenko: Thank you for your kindness, Pane Presidente, but I had a very big meal . . .
Putin: When?
Yuschenko: Yesterday morning . . .
Putin: You are sure now . . . my people went to very great lengths to prepare this JUST for you . . .
Yuschenko: Yes, I suspected they had . . .
Putin: And what does that mean?
Yuschenko: That I have already inveighed on your kind hospitality too much . . .
Putin: Then take one of these cookies for the road . . .
Yuschenko: You first, Pane Presidente!
Putin: Oh, that's all right, I too have had a very big meal . . . as President, you should learn not to turn down your hosts' hospitality - when you do, you lose face!
Yuschenko: My face is exactly what I'm considering, Pane Presidente . . .
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Dear Hal,
Did you see the inauguration on TV?
I've never seen a more moving event!
It was MORE than an inauguration of a president.
It was a declaration of Ukrainian independence, a repeat of 22 Sichnya!
Alex
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Dear Alex:
I did indeed. 4am Central Time over the streaming video feed from Ukrainian Channel 5.
I was plenty emotional in 1991 when in saw the tape of "Bozhe Vekykyj Yedynij" being sung in the Ukrainian Parilament for the first time during Kravchuk's swearing-in.
No question that yesterday topped it!
Yours,
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The inauguration was certainly moving and joyful. Now the new President (of Ukraine, that is) needs our prayers that he may accomplish the Herculean tasks which lie before him.
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Originally posted by Antrodox: Victor Yuschenko has been declared the President of Ukraine. He has appointed Yulia Timoshenko as its premier; he's met with Vladimir Putin, and with the Moscow Patriarch Alexis II.
The Russian Patriarch expressed the hope (the translation is mine) that Ukraine will flower into a united country, and that relations between [b]countries of the slavic tradition will become activated. Source: http://www.yuschenko.com.ua/ukr/present/News/2187/ [/b] Here is another perspective concerning the Russian patriarch: http://www.day.kiev.ua/130700/ I.F.
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Jean Francois, Thanks for the link. Interesting article and, as an aside, the quality of the writing was superb  . Many years, Neil, who isn't usually all that impressed by what journalists do with and to language
"One day all our ethnic traits ... will have disappeared. Time itself is seeing to this. And so we can not think of our communities as ethnic parishes, ... unless we wish to assure the death of our community."
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