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POLL (revised): Where are people religiously at this forum ?
This is a substantially expanded version of the poll which I posted ten days ago. It begins with demographic questions, so we can have some idea of who the people are at this forum. The rest of the poll is about religious questions.
For each question, pick the option that is closest to your view. Thank you.
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Note: On questions 72 and 73, one of the options should read
"because I choose to, even when I don�t feel like it."
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The newly revised poll is now available !
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John,
There are a few subjects that intrigue me which have come up and will come up again: "The eternality of hell", "Will all be eventually saved?" come to mind. When I've time I may jump into such discussions.
For now, I wonder about question #40. Another possible answer and the one I would have chosen is "Irrelevant". I'm not sure that we should recognize non-Christian marriages so why should we recognize non-Christian divorce. That of course means that I find the idea of "religious divorce" preposterous. Should a priest be a functionary of the government? Should legal marriages in a secular state be a non factor in a Christian marriage?
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Dan,
I think each of those topics (the eternity of hell and the religious validity of secular marriages) are excellent topics for their own threads. If you start them, I will join in.
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The newly revised poll is now available !
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I noticed on the question (don't know which one) about the Balamand Declarition there were a lot of answers of not sure.
I had to answer not sure too, because honestly I don't know what that is. The question does not define it. Perhaps I am not alone in not knowing what this is. Is it when the Eastern Rite churches were re-united to Rome?
Could you exlpain?
Much thanks,
Mary
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I refuse to answer a poll asking for my race.
Sorry.
Shalom,
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I am a little bit concerned about the results of this poll so far. With twenty people having responded to it, 14 profess Catholicism as their Faith and 13 believe they will still be Catholic in 5 years.
But only 6 people accept the doctrine of Papal infallibility. 12 explicitly deny this doctrine by their selection. I can understand that the Orthodox (4 or 5) don't accept infallibility and that other people might be confused about it. But come on people, if are Catholic (western or eastern), you are required to believe what was defined by the first Vatican Council on this matter, or you are no longer a Catholic because you are a heretic. Being Catholic requires that you do actually accept all that is dogmatically taught by the Church.
Did people just select the wrong answer? I don't get it.
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Originally posted by St. Mary of Egypt:
I noticed on the question (don't know which one) about the Balamand Declarition there were a lot of answers of not sure.
I had to answer not sure too, because honestly I don't know what that is. The question does not define it. Perhaps I am not alone in not knowing what this is. The Balamand Declaration was an agreement between the Pope and the Ecumenical Patriarch and other Orthodox bishops in 1993. It recognized the right of the Eastern Catholic Churches to exist. However, it also gave up the policy of proselytizing members of other Churches. Some Eastern Catholics saw it as a betrayal of the very reason for the Eastern Catholic Churches to exist. Some Orthodox saw it as a betrayal of Orthodoxy in favor of ecumenism. Most (?) people view it as a decision that neither the Catholics nor the Orthodox will try to steal each other's members, and that both will try to get along with each other. -- John
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Originally posted by bruno:
...But come on people, if are Catholic (western or eastern), you are required to believe what was defined by the first Vatican Council on this matter, or you are no longer a Catholic because you are a heretic. Being Catholic requires that you do actually accept all that is dogmatically taught by the Church. Are you sure about that? 
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My concern when I looked at it last night was that out of 8 responses, 3 said that abortion is not always wrong. Among these same 8, 6 said it is important for the church to practice what it preaches. I found that ironic. It is also concerning because this board tends to be a much more conservative sample of the church than regular society.
I also thought it interesting that there was a consistent choice (not necessarily from the same person, but the choice consistently selected) that said gay marriage is fine, abortion is fine, Mary wasn't ever-virgin or the Mother of God, someone hasn't been to confession in over a year, someone hasn't learned about the faith in over a year, someone believes in reincarnation, that Jesus is not one of the reasons the person believes in God (all the responses at the time were among Catholic or Orthodox who intended to remain within the two), and yet every person had received the Eucharist in the last 3 months.
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Wondering,
Perhaps that means that this board fulfills an evangelistic purpose.
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Originally posted by bruno:
But come on people, if are Catholic (western or eastern), you are required to believe what was defined by the first Vatican Council on this matter, or you are no longer a Catholic because you are a heretic. ???????? Alexandr
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Originally posted by Wondering:
My concern when I looked at it last night was that out of 8 responses, 3 said that abortion is not always wrong. Among these same 8, 6 said it is important for the church to practice what it preaches. I found that ironic. It is also concerning because this board tends to be a much more conservative sample of the church than regular society.
I also thought it interesting that there was a consistent choice (not necessarily from the same person, but the choice consistently selected) that said gay marriage is fine, abortion is fine, Mary wasn't ever-virgin or the Mother of God, someone hasn't been to confession in over a year, someone hasn't learned about the faith in over a year, someone believes in reincarnation, that Jesus is not one of the reasons the person believes in God (all the responses at the time were among Catholic or Orthodox who intended to remain within the two), and yet every person had received the Eucharist in the last 3 months. Let me pose a moral dilemma. A young married girl presents to you with an ectopic pregnancy (The baby is growing OUTSIDE of the womb). This is not an uncommon occurance. 1 in 60 of pregnancies are ectopic. The vast majority miscarry early in the first trimester. However some do not. The girl is a Catholic. The baby cannot live and develop under such conditions, and will die in inside of her. If she does not miscarry, she will most likely die. How do you council her? Alexandr
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