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At this time ROCOR probably will not be canonizing Metropolitan Philaret, even though it should as well as a host of other holy ones who made up its ranks. METROPOLITAN IS INCORRUPT PRECISELY BECAUSE HE IS A CONFESSOR OF ORTHODOXY AND HIS ANATHEMIZING OF ECUMENISM AND HOLDING FAST TO THE ANATHEMAS OF 1054 is ORTHODOX. Athenagoras is also incorrupt--the earth will not contain his filthy remains, to the shame of the EP. We have to remember that Metropolitan Philaret was hand picked by ST John of SF to lead ROCOR--"he is angel". HOCNA is in a problematic situation and probably once the Russian church is reintegrated both at home and in the diaspora, within the next ten years, parishes within ROCOR might very well leave for HOCNA, and thats part and parcel the posturing involved. For what its worth, however, FR Panteleimon did love Blessed Philaret dearly...
ORTHODOXIA I THANATOS!
R

Dear Osama,

Could you name some other Holy Miracle-workers who could be glorified by the ROCOR in future? Are their lives available?

Orthodoxia I Thanatos

I remember how the stripes of the Greek Flag were numbered to correspond with the phrase:

"Elantheria A Thanatos" (Is that right?)

Alex

Osama,


If you are e-mailing us from Afghanistan, could you provide us with your location map coordinates?


Inquiiring minds (in the Pentagon) would like to know!


Allahu Akbar!


Vasili..a/k/a..Abu Jihad!

Dear Vasili,

RE: Allahu Akbar.

Does this mean you are no longer Bezpopovtsy Starovir?

Just kidding . . .

Any word on the Old Believer icons?


Alex

+ST JOHN OF SHANGHAI AND SAN FRANCISCO
+ST JONAH OF HAILAR IN CHINA
+bl Met Anastassy, a man of tremendous podvig was also found incorrupt when +bl Met Philaret's relics were uncovered.
+Arch. Theophan of Poltava, Confessor to the Holy Royal Martyrs, was known to be clairvoyant and a heirarch of intense struggle.
+Arch. Tikhon of SF-ST Johns predecessor- is incorrupt and myrrh-streaming.
+Arch. Adrian of Rockland, NY was a clairvoyant elder and a disciple of ST Nektary of Optina.
+Bishop Nektary of Seattle was a Confessor and a Heirarch of intense podvig, also a disciple of ST Nektary of Optina.
Hieromonk Seraphim (Rose) of Platina was incorrupt at his burial and rigomortis did not set in.
Schema monk Luke (Smith) of Jordanville was a grace filled elder who had seen the uncreated light and nightly warred with demons.
Archimandrite Kiprian of Jordanville in his old age was gifted with unceasing prayer-even while he slept!-he would reveal the sins to those who confessed to him and was clairvoyant--I was his spiritual son for a short time.
+Arch Anthony of SF was a monolith of humility and LOVE, being also clairvoyant and prescient of the sins of others.
FR Panteleimon of Jordanville was an intense man of prayer.
FR Vladimir of Jordanville acquired Prayer of the Heart and was often seen with the gift of tears.
FR Constantine of Jordanville was a Confessor and monk of extreme podvig.
+Arch Averky of Jordanville was a Confessor and Heirarch of extreme podvig.
Both +Arch Leonty of Chile and +Bishop Savva of Edmonton shared in the SAME spiritual life of ST John of SF
And the list goes on and on. While others in certain Orthodox and "eastern right" jurisdictions were declaring the life in the Orthodox Tradition "dead works", "super-Orthodoxy", etc ROCOR offers salvation in the pleroma of the Tradition. FR Alexander Schmemann will probably not be incorrupt, but those who opposed his renovationism are. Need more be said or asked about the way to theosis. Repent for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!
Orthodoxia i Thanatos!
R

osama --

"While others in certain Orthodox and "eastern right" jurisdictions were declaring the life in the Orthodox Tradition "dead works", "super-Orthodoxy", etc ROCOR offers salvation in the pleroma of the Tradition. FR Alexander Schmemann will probably not be incorrupt, but those who opposed his renovationism are."

Can we please keep the Orthodox jurisdictional nonsense off this Eastern Catholic BB, where we are guests?

Brendan

Confront what is said and examine the meaning, precisely BECAUSE it impacts on these Eastern Rite Christians as well. LIVE THE PLEROMA IN THE TRADITION!
ORTHODOXIA I THANATOS!
R

Dear Osama,

Thank you very, very much for the kindness of your posting on the Holy Ones!

As for your call to repentance, the only thing I can say is:

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me a sinner!

Alex

Osama,


(According to your profile, you are a "terrorist." Of course, we do not take you literally, but Holy Father Philaret is not pleased! Those who have been healed are obligated by gratitude to have a purer witness than others. May I suggest you find a more worthy "occupation" for a child of the Prince of Peace?)


Christ is Risen!


Alex,

Icons?


Try the Nativity of Our Lord Old Rite Russian Orthodox Church of Erie, Penn.


"Every nut, if only left alone, will find its niche!"--Plato. (From Plato's Pizzeria in Nea Smryni.)


There has to be a place for people whose brain chemistry is..uh..abnormal. And those churches that specialize as spiritual homes for the "low-maintenance normal people" (Brother Lance), would be hard pressed to cope with "nuts" like us.


There has to be a place for us, too. The priestless Old Believer structure and spirituality fits like a warm glove. Also, we can provide a spiritual home and faith family for folks your average Catholic or Orthodox parish could never reach. Don't we deserve a place of spiritual rest and fellowship?


And a beautiful personal benefit is that the perennial internecine warfare between Eastern Catholics and Eastern Orthodox is now meaningless to me. 'O Happy Day! You should be so blessed! (Just kidding.)


Vasili


Truly He is Risen!


Old Believers

www.geocities.com/Athens/Agora/2827/index.html [geocities.com]




[This message has been edited by Vasili (edited 04-19-2001).]

But Vasili, isn't it true thatthe bezpopovtsy do not have the Eucharist? How do you presume to grow in Christ without the Eucharist? The folks at Nativity Church in Erie are not "bez".

Brendan

Vasili,

We can reach more people than you could ever hope to because we have the Eucharist, which is Christ's true presence. It's time for you to go back to the Old Calendarists, my friend.

anasatsios

A more worthy occupation--why is it you cant accept empiricism on its own terms when it forces you to confront poor scholarship and hastily constructed straw men? For one thing, gone are the days when people will be labelling ROCOR as schismatic!
ORTHODOXIA I THANATOS!
R

Dear Whirling Dervish,

Yes, you may be right.

But Christ said that He built His Church on the Rock, not on ROCOR.

The distinction is both empirical and worth pondering.

Alex

Dear Vasili,

Actually, I know where I can get a calendar of Old Believer Saints and have ordered one.

But Brendan makes a good point.

Could you not explain your position with respect to belonging to a group that does not have the Eucharist?

I, for one, promise not to criticize, but to listen so as to understand and learn!

Alex

Christ is Risen!


Anastasios,


I am glad to hear you CAN reach more people than we can. But, when? I am talking about reaching people with serious mental illnesses...NOW!


Please, DO reach out to these poor souls but do it RIGHT NOW. That is what we are doing because no one else is.


Where there is a vacuum, God will fill it.

"A Christian cannot live by abstractions alone, but acts upon the Word of Mercy that flows from the heart of the Suffering Servant."


"How think ye? If a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray?


And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray.


Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish."---Matth.18:12-14.


Vasili


Truly He is Risen!