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So strange it is probably true. I thounght I would share this for laughs. Looks like Pius XIII has competition. See link below:
http://www.tboyle.net/Catholicism/Unknwn_%20bp\'s_Consecrations.html
My cromulent posts embiggen this forum.
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Well, even though I wildly disagree with his premises, I did get a laugh out of the anti-Jesuit joke (on his home page)! 
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...who allegedly was later ordained a Eastern Rite Roman Catholic priest. My "favorite" passage of the whole page.
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Oh no, not ANOTHER Thuc-line bishop... :rolleyes:
Lance, just to clarify while the Transalpine Redemptorists may be schismatic, they are not formally sedevacantist. There are the occasional suggestions now and again from them or through the SSPX that John Paul II may not be a 'real' Pope, especially after Assisi and kissing the Koran.
But the SSPX and its satellite communities (such as the TAR) have not yet formally made such a declaration officially accepting a sedevacantist position. The thread title is a bit of a misnomer as I don't see any documentation that "Pope Linus" was ever a TAR.
This is even more far-out than the TARs.
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Dear Friends,
This group doesn't really like the Eastern Church, does it?
And it wants to have nothing to do with Pope John Paul II after he kissed the Koran?
Does anyone have a Koran for kissing purposes . . .
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Yes, it seems there is a general lack of respect overall for the Byzantine tradition. A quote from the former SSPX Superior General Fr. Franz Schmidberger also speaks to this complete lack of respect and understanding: you cannot compare the Orthodox Church as if it were a true partial Church. That's absurd, because the Orthodox, even if they have a valid Eucharist and a valid priesthood and apostolic succession, they have this apostolic succession only materially, not formally, because they are not linked to the Pope. Moreover, they do not recognize quite a lot of dogmas. For example, their position concerning Purgatory is unclear and confused; they do not accept the procession of the Holy Ghost from both the Father and the Son, nor the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary. Then, especially, they do not recognize the primacy of the Pope. They are schismatics and even, to a certain point, heretics. So the bottom line is these ultra-Trads really suspect them (and us Greek Catholics wishing to be closer to our Byzantine roots) of far more than schism, i.e. heresy.
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Diak said: ...kissing the Koran. Diak, I believe that many learned Catholcs are misinformed on this topic. Many Catholics, even theologians, apparently believe on the basis of rumor that the Pope kissed the Qu'ran. However, the book that he is kissing in the picture looks to be a Chaldean lexicon. He is kissing the book in Iraq at, I believe, the residence of Patriarch Raphael, who is clearly visible in the picture. There is no conclusive evidence AFAIK that His Holiness John Paul II kissed anything other than a Chaldean liturgical book. I don't see how Assisi can invalidate John Paul II, either. Logos Teen
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Thank you, Teen! As usual, you see clearly ... and explain clearly too! 
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Originally posted by Teen Of The Incarnate Logos:
However, the book that he is kissing in the picture looks to be a Chaldean lexicon. He is kissing the book in Iraq at, I believe, the residence of Patriarch Raphael, who is clearly visible in the picture. There is no conclusive evidence AFAIK that His Holiness John Paul II kissed anything other than a Chaldean liturgical book. With all due respect, this is the absolute first time I'm hearing this line of argument, so I (and I'm sure many others) would appreciate any support you can lend to it by documentation or something similar. If my recollection of the picture is correct, while the late Patriarch (Eternal memory!) may be pictured, he is in the background, the two main figures being the Pope holding a green book of some sort, and a man in Arab dress. I suppose it could be a Chaldean liturgical book, but where is the support for that? The overwhelming opinion has been that it was a copy of the Quran, and I have no reason to doubt that unless you have documentation that says otherwise.
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Diak said: ...kissing the Koran. I didn't say that. Teen, I would love to take credit for mentioning that, but it was Alex who brought that up: Dear Friends,
This group doesn't really like the Eastern Church, does it?
And it wants to have nothing to do with Pope John Paul II after he kissed the Koran?
Does anyone have a Koran for kissing purposes . . .
Alex As far as I am concerned, this pope has already earned the title of "John Paul the Great". Perhaps you haven't noticed me sticking up for him in other posts. What book he kissed is really his business as an act of personal piety
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