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Dear Friends,
Just a note to say we had a wonderful turnout for the St Paddy's Day parade up here yesterday!
So many of us are "wearin' the Green" already!
I've a large shamrock pin with a big heart in the middle of it, along with green Mardi Gras beads that I obtained in New Orleans where they also have a big St Patrick's Day parade.
I continue to promote a piece of heritage legislation that I concocted that would also declare March 17th "Irish Heritage Day in Ontario."
And I've visited the Isle of Lerins where St Patrick received his ecclesial and monastic training based on St John Cassian's monastic traditions - so the patron of the Emerald Isle can also be adopted as one of our heartfelt Eastern Saints too, would you believe!
God bless Holy Eire and all the sons and daughters of St Patrick!
May All Saints of Eire pray for us!
May the road rise to meet you and the wind be ever at your back.
And until we meet again, may the Lord hold you in the hollow of His Hand!
Erin go bragh!
Alastair, er, I mean, Alex . . .
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Imitation is the sincerest form of flatery... The 180th consecutive edition of the oldest uninterrupted St. Patrick's Day parade took place yesterday in Montreal with the Prime Minister and Ukrainian dancers among the paraders and enlightened Torontonians among the watchers. Montreal Gazette article (with pictures) [ canada.com]
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Dear Roman,
As you know, Irish missionaries travelled to see St Olha the Great in Kiev in their "birinns!"
And the Declaration of Ardbroath of King Robert the Bruce insists that "Scottia" is a form of "Scythia" which is why both Scotland and Scythia (now Ukraine) have the same patron saint in the person of St Andrew!
Believe it or not . . .
Alex
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Originally posted by Orthodox Catholic: And the Declaration of Ardbroath of King Robert the Bruce insists that "Scottia" is a form of "Scythia" which is why both Scotland and Scythia (now Ukraine) have the same patron saint in the person of St Andrew!
Believe it or not . . .
Alex I believe it as it would explain why I was rooting for Nova Scotia against Alberta in Sunday's Brier (that's Canadian curling, for the uninitiated) final even though Alberta's 'rink' was composed of one definite Ukie surname and two probables (including Ferbey, the 'skip') and even though Alberta's colours were blue and yellow!
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That's okay - the roughest, toughest Polacks in the USA are commonly referred to as "the Fighting Irish of Notre Dame". Incognitus
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Dear Roman,
As you know, a number of Western Canadian flags have blue and yellow in them in honour of the Ukrainian pioneers there.
The flag of Winnipeg for one, which I have, and also the flag of Regina which is a beautiful blue/yellow flag where the blue stripe is about twice as large as the yellow stripe and displays a white Crown of St Edward.
The interpretation of these flags is the same as that of the Ukrainian flag ie. blue skies over fields of yellow wheat.
(That is the wrong interpretation of the blue and yellow of the Ukie flag - these colours are the royal colours of the House of St Vladimir taken from Byzantium. The Mongolians called Ukrainians by their favourite dress colours, blue and yellow of "Khakh" (blue) and "ulo" (yellow" - "Khakhuly" or, the Russian term of opprobrium against Ukies, "Khakholy.")
Believe it or not . . .
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Originally posted by Orthodox Catholic: Dear Roman,
As you know, [...]
Alex I'm afraid that you're overestimating my knowledge. My head isn't quite that full of it - that's why I come here! [ Linked Image]
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Daer Roman, Speaking of being "full of it," I hold Irish Melkite in such admiration for being so lucid in his posts the day after St Patrick's Day!! A hardy bunch those Irish! Alex
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Originally posted by Orthodox Catholic:
The interpretation of these flags is the same as that of the Ukrainian flag ie. blue skies over fields of yellow wheat.
(That is the wrong interpretation of the blue and yellow of the Ukie flag - these colours are the royal colours of the House of St Vladimir taken from Byzantium. The Mongolians called Ukrainians by their favourite dress colours, blue and yellow of "Khakh" (blue) and "ulo" (yellow" - "Khakhuly" or, the Russian term of opprobrium against Ukies, "Khakholy.")
Believe it or not . . .
Alex Alex is correct again. The blue and yellow colours date back centuries and were used by both Kyivan-Rus royals (princes) and Ruthenian Kozaks. In fact when the first Ukrainian Republic was declared in 1918, the original flag had the yellow on top and blue on the bottom  , because as Alex points out the flag colours had nothing to do with the myth of 'blue sky' and 'golden Steppes' of Ukraine as many people believe. There was a standard 19th century international protocol at the time that the flag was created which outlined the order in which colours were to be exhibited on a national flag. Yellow came before blue and this is how the first Ukrainian Republican flags were made; yellow on top and blue on the bottom. The Republic fell and in the diaspora 'myth' eventually became bigger than international protocol. Various political rivals took the oppotunity of changing the order of the colours to better identify with their partisan views. Today the blue is on top and the yellow on the bottom and 'myth' has become 'reality'. The official Ukrainian Republican government line is that yellow (on the bottom) represents the golden wheat fields and blue (on top) the wide open skies over them. Hritzko PS: If Saskatchewan's flag is a close runner-up to the Ukrainian national flag. If the green had a little less yellow in it - it would be a perfect match. They already have a Ukrainian speaking Premier (like governor) and a UGCC bishop, so maybe this is part of the 'Ukrainian Empire' 
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We love St Patrick's Day so much in Chicago that one parade just won't do it for us, that's why we have two.
Got a big shock on the actual day though. Bought some Guinness Extra Stout (not one of my favorites, but it's good served Caribbean style) and found that it tasted a little different. Then I noticed it wasen't brewed in Dublin, but in Toronto, Canada.
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I had something similar happen to me last year while in the US of A. I bought 6 German "Imports" (Beck's, IIRC) only to find that they were brewed in New Brunswick. I don't believe that these fake imports are sold in Canada; we only get the real stuff here [ Linked Image]
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Dear Roman,
Did you know that when it comes to things such as beer, the trade barriers between the Canadian provinces are much stronger than the one betwen Canada and the United States.
You can't buy 'Moosehead' in Quebec or 'Labatt' in Nova Scotia, but you can get both in Massachusetts.
Where do you get your little funny faces ? I liked the one with the 'no brains' you used a few days ago.
Hritzko
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The only Canadian beer I've ever had that I was impressed with was Le Fin Du Monde from Quebec. Very smooth despite being 9 pct alcohol. Excellent stuff.
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Hey - If you put 9% alcohol in any American beer I'm sure it would also be smoooooooth. Hritzko PS: (Fin du Monde = End of the World) I have never heard of it even though I'm from Montreal. Could be one of those export beers.
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La Fin du Monde is among three beers brewed by Unibroue in Chambly, just east of Montreal, that is among the world's Top 50 Beers as per the Beer Advocate. [ beeradvocate.com] While I have yet to develop a taste for these Belgian style beers, I can say that I have yet to come across a company with nicer labels!
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